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<blockquote data-quote="4mesh063" data-source="post: 40791" data-attributes="member: 941"><p>I have no problem with anyones gun shooting well off a bipod. I've had a few myself and shot them rather well. I took a factory gun hunting one morning with 4 rounds in the mag, 1 in the pipe. Hoping to find a woodchuck or otherwise somewhere on the farm. Shot 1 was at a woodchuck, somewhere past 300 (High 3's) as that's my rule, no shots under 300. I don't remember how far it was but it's dead. Off a bipod. With 4 rounds remaining I kept going. Ranged some crows and laid down to take a shot. Shot 2, dead crow, Shot 3, Dead crow, Shot 4 miss, Shot 5 Dead crow. The closest crow was at 450+ yards. Now, this was very early in the morning and there were NO conditions by my estimations. So, I for one, can believe that cold barrel kills are entirely possible and on targets a lot smaller than a deer. I also beleive that if you are familiar with your gun, you should be able to shoot something at great range with a Bipod. I shot in an Fclass match just for fun one day last year with my 6.5 (that was torn down for horrible accuracy and had the barrel replaced under warranty). In that match, off a front rest only, I shot 1 sighter in the 8 ring and ALL MY OTHER SHOTS (spotted of course, as are done in Fclass matches) were in the 9/10 and x ring. I wouldn't dream of shooting that gun in a real match where anyone would keep track of my score. I only shot it because it was the only thing I had to shoot other than my normal 1K gun. This was done, laying in the wet grass, in the rain, in October with my ammo huddled under me so it wouldn't get wet. </p><p></p><p>The only thing I have a problem with is the photo of the "Bad Conditions" where I see FOG in the background! How many times have you seen fog in a 15mph wind? Where do they have that I wonder? Really bad conditions...</p><p></p><p>Then the question about "Boyd, How do you know that it would get bigger?" Well, what the hell do YOU think? If it's 4" now and you shoot more rounds, do you think it's gonna get to 3" ? Personally, I have never shot a 4" group of 3 shots, then continued to shoot more rounds and came up with a group that was smaller! </p><p></p><p>Why do 3 shot groups get no respect? </p><p></p><p>Well, this weekend I saw a 3 shot group at 1000yds (3 consecutive shots in a genuine 10-15mph wind) group in 1" </p><p></p><p>The next shots made the group BIGGER! </p><p></p><p>I think the trouble is less that anyone slights what is accomplished, just that they are difficult to impress. There are MANY people here who have done some remarkable things in all the shots they have fired over the years and when they don't fall over themselves congratulating you on what you feel is a monumental achievement, you take it personally and whine about people having no respect. All they are doing is calling it as they see it. I mean, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.</p><p></p><p>The way I see it, you have a "Misread the conditions" disclaimer on every target posted. Well, I didn't see that change, or I missed the windage a little. Do you have a rangefinder? Is the 7?? yards a guess? </p><p></p><p>How many times have you ever shot at game at long range? How many times have you missed? How many got away? </p><p></p><p>I think there is a possiblity that </p><p>your gun is a very good one. Someday, if you ever learn to listen, you will understand that if you have a gun that has a change of impact after 10 rounds, that you also have a gun that will change from day to day by the same amount or more. Until that day, we will never know if you have a great gun or not because you positivly refuse to shoot enough rounds to find out!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4mesh063, post: 40791, member: 941"] I have no problem with anyones gun shooting well off a bipod. I've had a few myself and shot them rather well. I took a factory gun hunting one morning with 4 rounds in the mag, 1 in the pipe. Hoping to find a woodchuck or otherwise somewhere on the farm. Shot 1 was at a woodchuck, somewhere past 300 (High 3's) as that's my rule, no shots under 300. I don't remember how far it was but it's dead. Off a bipod. With 4 rounds remaining I kept going. Ranged some crows and laid down to take a shot. Shot 2, dead crow, Shot 3, Dead crow, Shot 4 miss, Shot 5 Dead crow. The closest crow was at 450+ yards. Now, this was very early in the morning and there were NO conditions by my estimations. So, I for one, can believe that cold barrel kills are entirely possible and on targets a lot smaller than a deer. I also beleive that if you are familiar with your gun, you should be able to shoot something at great range with a Bipod. I shot in an Fclass match just for fun one day last year with my 6.5 (that was torn down for horrible accuracy and had the barrel replaced under warranty). In that match, off a front rest only, I shot 1 sighter in the 8 ring and ALL MY OTHER SHOTS (spotted of course, as are done in Fclass matches) were in the 9/10 and x ring. I wouldn't dream of shooting that gun in a real match where anyone would keep track of my score. I only shot it because it was the only thing I had to shoot other than my normal 1K gun. This was done, laying in the wet grass, in the rain, in October with my ammo huddled under me so it wouldn't get wet. The only thing I have a problem with is the photo of the "Bad Conditions" where I see FOG in the background! How many times have you seen fog in a 15mph wind? Where do they have that I wonder? Really bad conditions... Then the question about "Boyd, How do you know that it would get bigger?" Well, what the hell do YOU think? If it's 4" now and you shoot more rounds, do you think it's gonna get to 3" ? Personally, I have never shot a 4" group of 3 shots, then continued to shoot more rounds and came up with a group that was smaller! Why do 3 shot groups get no respect? Well, this weekend I saw a 3 shot group at 1000yds (3 consecutive shots in a genuine 10-15mph wind) group in 1" The next shots made the group BIGGER! I think the trouble is less that anyone slights what is accomplished, just that they are difficult to impress. There are MANY people here who have done some remarkable things in all the shots they have fired over the years and when they don't fall over themselves congratulating you on what you feel is a monumental achievement, you take it personally and whine about people having no respect. All they are doing is calling it as they see it. I mean, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. The way I see it, you have a "Misread the conditions" disclaimer on every target posted. Well, I didn't see that change, or I missed the windage a little. Do you have a rangefinder? Is the 7?? yards a guess? How many times have you ever shot at game at long range? How many times have you missed? How many got away? I think there is a possiblity that your gun is a very good one. Someday, if you ever learn to listen, you will understand that if you have a gun that has a change of impact after 10 rounds, that you also have a gun that will change from day to day by the same amount or more. Until that day, we will never know if you have a great gun or not because you positivly refuse to shoot enough rounds to find out! [/QUOTE]
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