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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 1012019" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>I think they are needed for long range shots, and the more topographic relief, the more difficult I find it to sense "level", without the use of my scope levels. </p><p></p><p>I never used them until I started to focus on long range hunting. I thought I could judge level simply by observing the terrain. I learned in a hurry how unable I was to judge level after I mounted a scope level plumb on my rifle. Especially in the mountains. I was way off. When the entire mountainside is sloped 20 degrees and I was targeting objects along the mountainside I was hunting black bear on, I learned I was holding my rifle nowhere near level, after checking the scope level. I was so far off I wondered if my scope level had shifted, since after I leveled up my rifle, it looked anything but level through my field of view.</p><p></p><p>It's like a lot of other aspects of shooting long range. If you're shots are relatively close, say less than ~500-600 yds, it's not likely to make the difference between a hit or a miss. But at longer yardages, a canted rifle in and of itself, could cause a complete miss, or worse yet, a wounding hit that results in an animal that doesn't end up being recovered.</p><p></p><p>So for folks hunting in the vegetated terrain where you don't have time to check your rifle's level, you're apt to be experiencing closer range shots which involve less error with a canted rifle. Long range shots, which I classify exceeding ~500-600yds, I believe a hunter is more often than not able to afford the time to level up the firearm using a scope level. And I think it fool hardy not to do so.</p><p></p><p>If I'm hunting at yardages long enough to require a ballistics program and a laser range finder, I am also going to be using a scope level, because the error in POI could be similar to misjudged yardage to the target.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 1012019, member: 4191"] I think they are needed for long range shots, and the more topographic relief, the more difficult I find it to sense "level", without the use of my scope levels. I never used them until I started to focus on long range hunting. I thought I could judge level simply by observing the terrain. I learned in a hurry how unable I was to judge level after I mounted a scope level plumb on my rifle. Especially in the mountains. I was way off. When the entire mountainside is sloped 20 degrees and I was targeting objects along the mountainside I was hunting black bear on, I learned I was holding my rifle nowhere near level, after checking the scope level. I was so far off I wondered if my scope level had shifted, since after I leveled up my rifle, it looked anything but level through my field of view. It's like a lot of other aspects of shooting long range. If you're shots are relatively close, say less than ~500-600 yds, it's not likely to make the difference between a hit or a miss. But at longer yardages, a canted rifle in and of itself, could cause a complete miss, or worse yet, a wounding hit that results in an animal that doesn't end up being recovered. So for folks hunting in the vegetated terrain where you don't have time to check your rifle's level, you're apt to be experiencing closer range shots which involve less error with a canted rifle. Long range shots, which I classify exceeding ~500-600yds, I believe a hunter is more often than not able to afford the time to level up the firearm using a scope level. And I think it fool hardy not to do so. If I'm hunting at yardages long enough to require a ballistics program and a laser range finder, I am also going to be using a scope level, because the error in POI could be similar to misjudged yardage to the target. [/QUOTE]
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