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I'm indecisive. Help me choose a caliber.
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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 732638" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>Wow what a stock!! Tell me about it!!</p><p> </p><p>well reading your post and thoughts with the added word "bear" taken into thought (black bear I'd assume). Here's my take on the .308 and what you are asking for.</p><p> </p><p>* the .308 will for sure shoot nicely out to 1000 yards or so, but it's also about done at those ranges. 30-06 is not much better as well. I think I'd drop down to something like a .280 Remington or a 6.5 something. The 180 grain Amax has a B/C slightly under .50, and in the Hornaday manual they show 2500fps as max (seems a bit slow). A heavy does of 2460 ought to easilly get you 2700fps with the same bullet in a 24" barrel (or RL15 and 2520). On the otherhand a 30-06 will give you about a 100 to 150fps more velocity out of a 24" barrel. I personally like something in between the two.</p><p> </p><p>* now we've hashed over the more common 30's in a standard Mauser bolt head. Let's look at someothers</p><p>1. the .280 is just a great round. Very accurate, and there is an extremely good bullet selection to shoose from (7mm). Hornaday gets 2800fps with a 160 grain SST! That bullet has a .55 B/C, and will shoot flatter than the 180 grain 30 calibers while still retaining more velocity down range (meaning more power). The AMAX is claimed to have a B/C of .62 at the same velocity. I see nothing but a winner here!!!</p><p> </p><p>2. the 6.5-06 is another great round (as is the 6.5/.284). Recoil will be slightly milder than the 7mm, and even more milder than the 30's. The B/C of the 140 grain SST is a .52, and their Amax is .55. The 6.5-06 will do 2900fps, and once again a winner. Either of these rounds and the .280 should shoot well out to 1000yards (hell I can't see that far). The nice thing about the 6.5 and to a certain extent the 7mm is that there are some nice light weight bullets for varmiting.. But of these rounds my favorites would be the 7x57AI and the 6.5x57AI Mauser rounds. Both will push 140 grain bullets close to 3000fps with a shorter case and a better fit in the mag well with those long high B/C bullets (better case design as well). I really call out those two as winners!</p><p> </p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 732638, member: 25383"] Wow what a stock!! Tell me about it!! well reading your post and thoughts with the added word "bear" taken into thought (black bear I'd assume). Here's my take on the .308 and what you are asking for. * the .308 will for sure shoot nicely out to 1000 yards or so, but it's also about done at those ranges. 30-06 is not much better as well. I think I'd drop down to something like a .280 Remington or a 6.5 something. The 180 grain Amax has a B/C slightly under .50, and in the Hornaday manual they show 2500fps as max (seems a bit slow). A heavy does of 2460 ought to easilly get you 2700fps with the same bullet in a 24" barrel (or RL15 and 2520). On the otherhand a 30-06 will give you about a 100 to 150fps more velocity out of a 24" barrel. I personally like something in between the two. * now we've hashed over the more common 30's in a standard Mauser bolt head. Let's look at someothers 1. the .280 is just a great round. Very accurate, and there is an extremely good bullet selection to shoose from (7mm). Hornaday gets 2800fps with a 160 grain SST! That bullet has a .55 B/C, and will shoot flatter than the 180 grain 30 calibers while still retaining more velocity down range (meaning more power). The AMAX is claimed to have a B/C of .62 at the same velocity. I see nothing but a winner here!!! 2. the 6.5-06 is another great round (as is the 6.5/.284). Recoil will be slightly milder than the 7mm, and even more milder than the 30's. The B/C of the 140 grain SST is a .52, and their Amax is .55. The 6.5-06 will do 2900fps, and once again a winner. Either of these rounds and the .280 should shoot well out to 1000yards (hell I can't see that far). The nice thing about the 6.5 and to a certain extent the 7mm is that there are some nice light weight bullets for varmiting.. But of these rounds my favorites would be the 7x57AI and the 6.5x57AI Mauser rounds. Both will push 140 grain bullets close to 3000fps with a shorter case and a better fit in the mag well with those long high B/C bullets (better case design as well). I really call out those two as winners! gary [/QUOTE]
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