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<blockquote data-quote="Ian M" data-source="post: 182134" data-attributes="member: 25"><p>I completely agree with Bounty. We as hunters have allowed the agencies to implement, and asked or demanded for so many stupid rules and regulations that we cannot see the bottom line. Why do we allow a game agency to dictate how old our child should be before his or her first hunting experience? I know kids who at ten years of age have more common sense than some nineteen year olds. I am not a bird hunter but why do you guys have to plug your shotguns, when you shoot your limit are you not done? Why does the govm'nt restrict hunting on Sundays in many jurisdictions, does anybody really care if a rifle is fired ten miles back in the bush on a Sunday?</p><p></p><p>Hunting is a game management tool, it is the only viable tool for attempting to regulate game populations. The alternates are poisoning and sharpshooters since we are not killing enough on the highways to help keep numbers down. In fact the insurance industry will probably start wielding as much influence as sportsmen regarding reducing deer numbers if the depredation and auto-collision costs keep climbing. To say nothing about CWD and whatever the hell disease will be next. This is about numbers, optimum numbers of deer to meet carrying capacity goals and optimum numbers of DOLLARS from license sales and other hunting spinoffs. Plus minimizing the cost the critters create by eating stored hay, market garden produce, crops and other ag products or by going through the windshields of expensive vehicles on the freeways. </p><p></p><p>This ******** about more regulations needed to finetune hunting to make the buckskinners feel happy (if there are any left...) or the guys who tempt fate by charging their Savages with shotgun powder or the guy who wants to kill with a baseball bat is just what Bounty said, it is playing into the anti-hunters hands big time. </p><p></p><p>I would hate to know what the actual wounding rate in Pennsylvania has been over the decades because hunters had to shoot at deer with smooth bore rifles and patched round balls with open sights and black powder ignited by flint sparks. During the actual seconds we are doing the act of taking the life of a game animal we should do so with as much certainty of making a clean kill as possible. Being forced to use the above equipment, particularly after your vision has gone to hell and you cannot see the deer, front sight and rear sights worth a **** anymore - makes a lot of sense. I can place my shot with maxmum precision, whether at fifteen yards or two fifty, with a frigging scope, period. As for what ignites in the barrel or what flies out, why should we give a ****. I loaded the sucker down the muzzle, isn't that enough? I think we should have muzzleloader seasons not primitive weapons seasons - primitive weapons are clubs, knives and spears.</p><p></p><p>Now I just wasted about fifteen minutes writing crap that does what they want - doing the them and us thing, gov agencies vs sportsmen, producers vs govt, autobody shop owners vs bambi lovers, baseball-bat hunters vs in-line shooters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ian M, post: 182134, member: 25"] I completely agree with Bounty. We as hunters have allowed the agencies to implement, and asked or demanded for so many stupid rules and regulations that we cannot see the bottom line. Why do we allow a game agency to dictate how old our child should be before his or her first hunting experience? I know kids who at ten years of age have more common sense than some nineteen year olds. I am not a bird hunter but why do you guys have to plug your shotguns, when you shoot your limit are you not done? Why does the govm'nt restrict hunting on Sundays in many jurisdictions, does anybody really care if a rifle is fired ten miles back in the bush on a Sunday? Hunting is a game management tool, it is the only viable tool for attempting to regulate game populations. The alternates are poisoning and sharpshooters since we are not killing enough on the highways to help keep numbers down. In fact the insurance industry will probably start wielding as much influence as sportsmen regarding reducing deer numbers if the depredation and auto-collision costs keep climbing. To say nothing about CWD and whatever the hell disease will be next. This is about numbers, optimum numbers of deer to meet carrying capacity goals and optimum numbers of DOLLARS from license sales and other hunting spinoffs. Plus minimizing the cost the critters create by eating stored hay, market garden produce, crops and other ag products or by going through the windshields of expensive vehicles on the freeways. This ******** about more regulations needed to finetune hunting to make the buckskinners feel happy (if there are any left...) or the guys who tempt fate by charging their Savages with shotgun powder or the guy who wants to kill with a baseball bat is just what Bounty said, it is playing into the anti-hunters hands big time. I would hate to know what the actual wounding rate in Pennsylvania has been over the decades because hunters had to shoot at deer with smooth bore rifles and patched round balls with open sights and black powder ignited by flint sparks. During the actual seconds we are doing the act of taking the life of a game animal we should do so with as much certainty of making a clean kill as possible. Being forced to use the above equipment, particularly after your vision has gone to hell and you cannot see the deer, front sight and rear sights worth a **** anymore - makes a lot of sense. I can place my shot with maxmum precision, whether at fifteen yards or two fifty, with a frigging scope, period. As for what ignites in the barrel or what flies out, why should we give a ****. I loaded the sucker down the muzzle, isn't that enough? I think we should have muzzleloader seasons not primitive weapons seasons - primitive weapons are clubs, knives and spears. Now I just wasted about fifteen minutes writing crap that does what they want - doing the them and us thing, gov agencies vs sportsmen, producers vs govt, autobody shop owners vs bambi lovers, baseball-bat hunters vs in-line shooters. [/QUOTE]
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