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<blockquote data-quote="EFR" data-source="post: 808382" data-attributes="member: 9643"><p>I have 3 icons, 22-250, 243, 308 and one Win, model 70 coyote lite 270wsm. Each and every icon is a tack driver. I never messed with bedding, only worked the trigger a bit. The 243 I have at least 3 one hole groups at 100 yds. The accuracy, fit, finish, and quality of the icon is fantastic. On one of them, the rear swing swivel stud was not centered. I called T/C, they said to send in the stock, and they replaced it free of charge. Excellent customer service, (at least it was a year ago). The last I heard, a week ago, from a S&W engineer (where the Icon is made now) they will be discontinuing the Icon, but I believe they are still making it now. In fact, I have a 6.5 Creedmoor Icon on order now. </p><p></p><p>The Win model 70 Coyote lite is a different story. My initial groups with factory ammo (to get the brass) were between 3-5" (100 yds) at best, and with Winchester Supreme 150 gr, I could not keep 3 on a 8 1/2 x 11" target. Close examination revealed a reamer mark or gouge 1/4" inside the muzzle. Winchester customer service said to send it back. I did. I waited over a year, calling every three months, and each time Winchester said call back in three months. At the one year and one day mark (from receipt) I asked for my money back. Winchester would not refund my money, but offered a different model. I was able to speak with someone who found the same model and caliber at a distributor, which they sent me, 14 months after mine was sent in. </p><p></p><p>Now, the new Mode 70 Coyote lite is shooting fine (after a bedding job and trigger spring), but I will never buy a Winchester again. </p><p></p><p>First target, Icon 243, Combined Technology 95gr, 41gr H4350. 3 shots, 100 yds.</p><p></p><p>In interest of full disclosure, second target is Model 70 270WSM, Berger 140gr, H1000, 69gr (I think). 3 shots, 100 yds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EFR, post: 808382, member: 9643"] I have 3 icons, 22-250, 243, 308 and one Win, model 70 coyote lite 270wsm. Each and every icon is a tack driver. I never messed with bedding, only worked the trigger a bit. The 243 I have at least 3 one hole groups at 100 yds. The accuracy, fit, finish, and quality of the icon is fantastic. On one of them, the rear swing swivel stud was not centered. I called T/C, they said to send in the stock, and they replaced it free of charge. Excellent customer service, (at least it was a year ago). The last I heard, a week ago, from a S&W engineer (where the Icon is made now) they will be discontinuing the Icon, but I believe they are still making it now. In fact, I have a 6.5 Creedmoor Icon on order now. The Win model 70 Coyote lite is a different story. My initial groups with factory ammo (to get the brass) were between 3-5" (100 yds) at best, and with Winchester Supreme 150 gr, I could not keep 3 on a 8 1/2 x 11" target. Close examination revealed a reamer mark or gouge 1/4" inside the muzzle. Winchester customer service said to send it back. I did. I waited over a year, calling every three months, and each time Winchester said call back in three months. At the one year and one day mark (from receipt) I asked for my money back. Winchester would not refund my money, but offered a different model. I was able to speak with someone who found the same model and caliber at a distributor, which they sent me, 14 months after mine was sent in. Now, the new Mode 70 Coyote lite is shooting fine (after a bedding job and trigger spring), but I will never buy a Winchester again. First target, Icon 243, Combined Technology 95gr, 41gr H4350. 3 shots, 100 yds. In interest of full disclosure, second target is Model 70 270WSM, Berger 140gr, H1000, 69gr (I think). 3 shots, 100 yds. [/QUOTE]
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