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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Stecker" data-source="post: 603760" data-attributes="member: 8908"><p>It is important to understand that we are doing something we haven't done before so we all will learn the answer to this question together. The good news is that we are <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">definitely</span></span> going to find out.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Keep in mind that as the manufacturer we are required to make recommendations that take into account all shooters in all potential environmental conditions. The actual twist rate needed at sea level in the winter is different than the twist rate needed at 5,000 feet elevation in the summer. Those who understand the <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">subtleties</span></span> of such things can make decisions that are not consistent with our recommendation. </p><p> </p><p>Regarding your question about 1/2" of twist rate, the key to this depends on how close you are to instability to begin with. If you are on the line and shoot a barrel 1/2" slower it will change things so much that you won't be able to hit anything past 50 feet. There will be a twist where the bullet is no longer stable. Crossing that line by 1/4" will produce a major change in results.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>At this point all we've done is decided to make the 375 caliber next instead of the 50 cal. Last year we introduced 12 or so new bullets. This year we plan on launching at least that many or more. Bryan is busy working on several designs. The 375 cal is on the list but it will be at least a few months before he is able to provide the design. I would not expect this bullet to see a test barrel until 2013. The good news is that if we followed our previous plan (to make the 50 cal first) the 375 cal Berger would not be ready until 2015 or later. </p><p> </p><p>Bryan excels at many things and sorting out the best weight for a new caliber is one of them. It is too early at this point to say which weight will be first. I would like to hear some <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">suggestions</span></span> though.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Michael, </p><p>Thank you for your comments. I know I am not perfect and need to be checked from time to time. It is never my intension to be inflexible and your feedback reminds me that even when I believe I am open to alternatives I may not be acting as though I am. </p><p> </p><p>Regarding the bonded bullets, I am enthusiastic about the potential to make a good shooting bonded bullet. We just have to keep in mind that they don't need to be used to win benchrest matches. We have other bullets for that.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Gene,</p><p>This is a real challenge. Making short bullets with high BCs is like making paper airplanes with jet engines. I can relay that at this time we don't have any plans for a bullet that fits your description. We have many bullets in development. At some point we will run out of new bullets to make. It is at this time that we will work harder to figure out how paper and jet fuel can coexist.</p><p> </p><p>Regards,</p><p>Eric</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eric Stecker, post: 603760, member: 8908"] It is important to understand that we are doing something we haven't done before so we all will learn the answer to this question together. The good news is that we are [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]definitely[/FONT][/COLOR] going to find out. Keep in mind that as the manufacturer we are required to make recommendations that take into account all shooters in all potential environmental conditions. The actual twist rate needed at sea level in the winter is different than the twist rate needed at 5,000 feet elevation in the summer. Those who understand the [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]subtleties[/FONT][/COLOR] of such things can make decisions that are not consistent with our recommendation. Regarding your question about 1/2" of twist rate, the key to this depends on how close you are to instability to begin with. If you are on the line and shoot a barrel 1/2" slower it will change things so much that you won't be able to hit anything past 50 feet. There will be a twist where the bullet is no longer stable. Crossing that line by 1/4" will produce a major change in results. At this point all we've done is decided to make the 375 caliber next instead of the 50 cal. Last year we introduced 12 or so new bullets. This year we plan on launching at least that many or more. Bryan is busy working on several designs. The 375 cal is on the list but it will be at least a few months before he is able to provide the design. I would not expect this bullet to see a test barrel until 2013. The good news is that if we followed our previous plan (to make the 50 cal first) the 375 cal Berger would not be ready until 2015 or later. Bryan excels at many things and sorting out the best weight for a new caliber is one of them. It is too early at this point to say which weight will be first. I would like to hear some [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]suggestions[/FONT][/COLOR] though. Michael, Thank you for your comments. I know I am not perfect and need to be checked from time to time. It is never my intension to be inflexible and your feedback reminds me that even when I believe I am open to alternatives I may not be acting as though I am. Regarding the bonded bullets, I am enthusiastic about the potential to make a good shooting bonded bullet. We just have to keep in mind that they don't need to be used to win benchrest matches. We have other bullets for that. Gene, This is a real challenge. Making short bullets with high BCs is like making paper airplanes with jet engines. I can relay that at this time we don't have any plans for a bullet that fits your description. We have many bullets in development. At some point we will run out of new bullets to make. It is at this time that we will work harder to figure out how paper and jet fuel can coexist. Regards, Eric [/QUOTE]
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