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<blockquote data-quote="Mike6158" data-source="post: 333192" data-attributes="member: 1039"><p>I actually feel pretty good about trigger pull. The rest was good. Sight picture was steady. I shot again this evening after making a scope change (more on that below) and once I was sighted in things went very well. I believe that what you posted is the likely scenario after today. I need to be sure to do a couple of sight in shots at the lease next week before I go to the stand and hold off on cleaning until after I shoot my deer. <--- hows that for confidence <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did something similar today. I loaded 10 rounds .010 off of the lands and took the powder charge down to what is supposed to be 2700 fps. The results were very good. </p><p></p><p>The more I thought about it the more I felt that I needed different (lower) scope rings. My Sendero is still a work in progress so i decided to take the scope off of it and mount it to the VTR. Both guns have tac rails and rings so it didn't surprise me when I checked it at 25 yards (before going to the 100 yard and 200 yard side) it was dead on. It needed adjustment at 100 yards and fine tuned at 200 yards but all in all the change didn't take long to shoot in. The difference in magnification (14x max vs 20x max on the new one) AND the position of my head on the stock with the lower rings, I think, helped. When I went to the 200 yard range I was hitting 1" low and 1" left. I made one adjustment and fired two shots. Center and 1/2" high / 1/2" left <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> Time to box it up and play with the AR15's. </p><p></p><p>I have two home-brew AR's with 18" Shilen match barrels. One of them inherited the VTR scope with the high rings. It was a perfect fit. Originally both AR's had Leupold AR scopes. Not bad scopes really... I just wanted a little more power for the 200 yard range. My son (working in Iraq. He's a Field Service rep for BAE. Fixes MRAPS... great truck) will inherit the other AR scope. Once it was sighted in I put 7 rounds inside of a 2" circle, some touching, at 200 yards. That'll do for deer or hog hunting. The other AR does really well (7 rounds inside a 1" circle) at 100 yards but I didn't get a chance to shoot it at 200 yards. I'm going back tomorrow so we'll see.</p><p></p><p>I picked up (2) more powders (RE-17 and TAC) I think I'll load 10 each with those powders to go with the rounds I already loaded with H335. I need to bone up on 1 in 12 twist barrels, bullet weight, etc...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike6158, post: 333192, member: 1039"] I actually feel pretty good about trigger pull. The rest was good. Sight picture was steady. I shot again this evening after making a scope change (more on that below) and once I was sighted in things went very well. I believe that what you posted is the likely scenario after today. I need to be sure to do a couple of sight in shots at the lease next week before I go to the stand and hold off on cleaning until after I shoot my deer. <--- hows that for confidence :D I did something similar today. I loaded 10 rounds .010 off of the lands and took the powder charge down to what is supposed to be 2700 fps. The results were very good. The more I thought about it the more I felt that I needed different (lower) scope rings. My Sendero is still a work in progress so i decided to take the scope off of it and mount it to the VTR. Both guns have tac rails and rings so it didn't surprise me when I checked it at 25 yards (before going to the 100 yard and 200 yard side) it was dead on. It needed adjustment at 100 yards and fine tuned at 200 yards but all in all the change didn't take long to shoot in. The difference in magnification (14x max vs 20x max on the new one) AND the position of my head on the stock with the lower rings, I think, helped. When I went to the 200 yard range I was hitting 1" low and 1" left. I made one adjustment and fired two shots. Center and 1/2" high / 1/2" left :D Time to box it up and play with the AR15's. I have two home-brew AR's with 18" Shilen match barrels. One of them inherited the VTR scope with the high rings. It was a perfect fit. Originally both AR's had Leupold AR scopes. Not bad scopes really... I just wanted a little more power for the 200 yard range. My son (working in Iraq. He's a Field Service rep for BAE. Fixes MRAPS... great truck) will inherit the other AR scope. Once it was sighted in I put 7 rounds inside of a 2" circle, some touching, at 200 yards. That'll do for deer or hog hunting. The other AR does really well (7 rounds inside a 1" circle) at 100 yards but I didn't get a chance to shoot it at 200 yards. I'm going back tomorrow so we'll see. I picked up (2) more powders (RE-17 and TAC) I think I'll load 10 each with those powders to go with the rounds I already loaded with H335. I need to bone up on 1 in 12 twist barrels, bullet weight, etc... [/QUOTE]
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