I need some Alaska advice from residents

Discussion in 'Alaskan Game' started by ICANHITHIMMAN, Apr 24, 2011.

  1. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    So my brother in law is getting commissioned in the Army next month and his tentative first duty station in Fort Richardson Alaska. My father in-law has it in his head that since his son is in the Army he will be able to go their and hunt moose as a resident.

    He wants me and his daughter to be on board with it and we are for the most part, except the unguided part. It seams to us that the guide’s expertise would be invaluable in this instance at least logistically speaking. I feel my father in law is getting in over his head. What are your thoughts he doesn’t know the area, his son does not even hunt and further more having spent a good deal of my life in the service I know my brother in law will have zero time as a boot 2nd LT to do anything.

    What are you thoughts?

    Jon
     
  2. Speedo

    Speedo Well-Known Member

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    He won't be able to get a resident license until he meets the residency requirements, he will be able to purchase a nonresident military license at the resident rate.

    As far as the logistics are involved there are a lot of variables involved but without backcountry access and knowledge of critters things can be difficult.

    Gus
     

  3. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    Gus

    Thanks I think thats right along the lines of what my self and his daughter were telling him. He just didnt want to hear it I suppose.

    Jon
     
  4. Gene Jr.

    Gene Jr. Well-Known Member

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    I'm not an AK resident but have done a DIY caribou hunt and I'm headed back this year to hunt with a friend who is a resident. I'll be a packer on his sheep hunt since I can not hunt them without a guide.

    From experience: get a guide or at least an outfitter to help out. Since you don't need a guide for moose you can go with just an air taxi or semi-outfitted hunt. This might be best. It would help a LOT with logistics and take a lot of stress off your trip.

    On my DIY caribou trip we did it all on our own without any help. Not the best choice but we were successful on getting a pair of bulls. In the end we didn't save much money and added a bit of stress to our trip.

    Have fun!
     
  5. comfisherman

    comfisherman Well-Known Member

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    Its a toss up, I always tell everybody alaska really comes alive when you leave the road system. Unfortunately without a fair bit of equipment and local knowledge its hard to know where to go. If you do the road hunt stuff with fort rich as a starting point be prepared to be out their with every other person from fort rich that had the same idea as your father in law.

    Its hard to believe such big country can feel crowded but the road systems really get hit pretty heavy. I did a hunt with a buddy in 05 and 08 and was absolutely flored. However I grew up in the middle of truely nowhere, so my perspective is a little skewed.

    The previous advice about residency fits with what I've heard, however I don't have regs in front of me.
     
  6. dig

    dig Well-Known Member

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    You may not hunt as a Resident unless you are an established resident. At a minimum I would hire a transporter sometimes known as an expediter. Hunting moose is a serious endeavor, once you get one on the ground the nightmare begins. Climates are extreme, work is extreme, costs are going to be relatively high to fly and establish a decent camp.
     
  7. Speedo

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    A large bull moose can exceed 1,600 lbs. and the country that you are likely to encounter them in will likely be wet. In some areas the meat cannot be boned out meaning that you can be looking at somewhere around 800 lbs. of meat to transport. If you fly in, find out what it is going to cost you to get your meat hauled out before you fly out as this can be costly. If you use a float plane don't shoot anything that you can't pack to the lake. Packing on the tundra will probably be different than anything you have ever experienced before. I've lived and hunted in Alaska for more than 40 years and I continue to learn every time I go out.

    Gus
     
  8. hammertyme

    hammertyme Well-Known Member

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    Been here and hunted for 40 years.
    1. Yes, when a family member becomes a resident he may take first Kindred relatives hunting with him without a guide.
    2. Once a guide I can saw that research in particuler with Fish and game biologist and spending time with aer surveys and flying ones self a do it yourself hunt is a very rewarding experience.

    3. Money is definitely an issue if one must fly a moose out in addition to hunting members and gear. Float trips are much better and since he is in the military there are places on most if not all bases in which recreation vehicles like boats,camp trailers and 4-wheelers can be rented to military personel. I stayed with a friend @ Fort Greeley and could not believe all the neat stuff that could be rented!

    Neal
     
  9. alcesgigas

    alcesgigas Well-Known Member

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    Your father-in-law must purchase a non-resident license; he must purchase a moose harvest ticket/trophy tag; if he is an American citizen he will not need the services of a guide or outfitter--otherwise he must hire and be under the influence of the guide (s) for the duration of his hunt. Whether or not his son or daughter is in the military and stationed in Alaska is immaterial.

    Alaskans do not appreciate those who disrespect them any more than anyone else does or should; if someone cheats and lies to obtain a resident license here another someone will surely contact the authorities. Anyone who hunts in Alaska owes it to them-self to obtain and learn the state regs and the federal regs. Both cover hunting in Alaska within their respective jurisdictions. Read and study the penalties for violations; some are a crime and carry heavy fines and seizure of all equipment...
     
  10. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.

    So whats a float trip guys?
     
  11. Chandalar

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    Float trips are my favorite way to hunt in Alaska, I believe they are the most affordable way to do a true wilderness hunting trip. Success in float hunting is having plenty of time and not being in a hurry like trying to come to Alaska and hunt for moose in 7 days, thats just not enough time and you will be more focused on making your takeout and woried about missing the plane that taking your time, being relaxed and hunting. Most of the rivers in the interior are less technical and pretty safe for long extend trips. There is no better time to do a float trip than in the fall, best weather, best colors, and on most rivers there will multiple species of animals to hunt. Its a silent, slow motion hunting experience. The key again is have plenty of time to be successful like 12 to 14 days on the water.
     
  12. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    Yes that sounds like a nice way to do it
     
  13. alaska

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    If he is in the military he is restricted for one year for On Millitary Land only hunting.

    After that he can get a resident miitary hunting license

    after that one year he can hunt anything in Alaska same as I.

    suggest to visit the AK game and fish website I am sure the reg and info will be on the site

    Any visitors have to get a Non Resident license

    Happy Hunting
     
  14. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    Thanks he just left for anchorage yesterday. He will be out of the
    Country for that year.