I keep cleaning and nothing changes???

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Sako7STW, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. Sako7STW

    Sako7STW Well-Known Member

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    So I have been cleaning my, new to me......340 Weatherby Mag Alaskan. It has a nickel coated stainless bbl. Anyways I disassembled the gun to clean it. The bolt and inside the stock everything was very very clean. I don't think the gun was ever hunted.

    The problem is, I have been working on the inside of the barrel for 6 hours now. I have ran a good 40+ patches and scrubbed the barrel with a brush 3 times. I have been using Shooters Choice patches, and then 2 patches of Sweets 7.62(or whatever the number) then coat the brush with Sweets. I then scrub for 10 strokes, then let the gun sit for 20-30 minutes. Then run more and more patches of Shooter's choice. The patches are still coming out blue. dark blue after scrubbing and then lighten up but never going clean.

    So When I bought this gun I had the place scope the gun (supposedly) and they said the barrel looked great. I bought the gun sight unseen other than pictures. Like I said the gun is in fantastic shape but I am beginning to wonder if I made a mistake. I am wondering of the guy who owned the gun before me lost accuracy so he traded it. I am thinking the barrel could have been fouled because no way did someone that knows guns let this barrel get this bad.

    When do I know when to stop cleaning? Is the stainless barrel having something to do with it? I have never had a stainless gun before so I don't know what to expect.
     
  2. RTK

    RTK Well-Known Member

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    If you are using a brass brush with sweets, etc. the blue is coming from that
     

  3. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    +1
    And the stainless barrel has nothing to do with it.

    The Sweets will attack the bronze brush (Good for initial cleaning) but after brushing switch to a swab
    or a patch soaked in a milder solvent .

    Bore Tec or Butches are good solvents for normal cleaning.

    Use a cotton swab to apply the solvent and it will come clean.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  4. Sako7STW

    Sako7STW Well-Known Member

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    I used a brass brush first then switched to nylon type brush for next 2 brushings. Most patches have been of Shooter's Choice which I find very similar to Butches. I have some Butches and Kroil as well. I might try some of that tomorrow.
     
  5. angus-5024

    angus-5024 Well-Known Member

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    I had a .340 Wby that I ran only barnes down the pipe, and had a heck of a time with copper fouling (nothing against barnes). I landed up useing a product called wipe out and it works very well.
     
  6. Boman

    Boman Well-Known Member

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    I think youre doing things right I just wonder if the previous owner ever used a copper solvent? Im thinkin no. Have you tried blue wonder? Ive had good luck with it. Also as someone mentioned try wipeout and plug your barrel and leave overnight. Good luck
     
  7. MTBULLET

    MTBULLET Well-Known Member

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    +1 on wipe out foam, and use the accelerator. on a few "well used" 1903a3'3, it has taken about a week of cleaning, letting foam soak over nite.
     
  8. 7stw

    7stw Well-Known Member

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    Hey Sako, it sounds like you are doing things right, but as was mentioned, you are getting at least some reaction from the brushes. When I've he'd to clean something like that, ( which usually isnt mine), I dig out the JB bore cleaner. Also, if it is severely fouled, I learned a long time ago, that if you boil some water, and pour it down the barrel, get it good and hot, and while it's hot use the JB bore cleaner, it works amazing. The heat, opens the pores of the steel, and let's the cleaner get more of it out. I have done this also with liquid cleaners as well, and it really makes it work then. Give that a try, I think you will get it clean then. It dosen't harm the barrel, but just don't bang it around while it's hot. I usually rest the barreled action across a couple of sand bags while doing this! Hope this helps! Take care buddy!
     
  9. Sully2

    Sully2 Well-Known Member

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    Another Wipe-Out user here. I like the stuff cause it seems to work A-OK
     
  10. Joe King

    Joe King Well-Known Member

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  11. g0rd0

    g0rd0 Well-Known Member

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    In 1982 I made a blueing tank and every year I dissasemble all of my guns and boil the action and barrels in distilled water. As I take each piece out of the tank I give it a vigirous shake and hang it up the heat evaporates any left over water. I then (before the barrels cool) bronse brush the barrels oil and reassemble. You would not believe the grud that boiling removes. The actions need oiling then also as the boiling effectively degreases everything.
    I dont believe that I have any fouling problems as my accuacy has not changed.
     
  12. Mike 338

    Mike 338 Well-Known Member

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    Bore Tech Eliminator and nickel jags so the jag doesn't show blue. Follow instructions. Easy.
     
  13. Sako7STW

    Sako7STW Well-Known Member

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    I really dont think I am getting false reads on the patches. I had to use my 7mm jag so I have to use doubled up patches. The inside patch is clean. Only the outside patch shows blue. I have to head to my dads today. I am going to see what he has for cleaners. Meanwhile I going to soak it down good in Kroil while I am gone.
     
  14. Mike 338

    Mike 338 Well-Known Member

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    Bore Tech products are great. They're all I use now.