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<blockquote data-quote="blackco" data-source="post: 150340" data-attributes="member: 7356"><p>Oh heck, I'll jump in on this too.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It sounds like we all agree that "canned" hunts don't count as hunting. I have also used the annalogy that "hunting" inside a pen is like shooting my friends free-ranging cattle. Only the cattle are cheeper and there is more meat. BUT! the absence of a fence doesn't mean fair-chase either. My dad was asked to "guide" for "fair-chase" elk in Oregon, he declined when he learned how it all worked. The client paid $5000 to hunt plus $1000 per point; agreed upon before the hunt. Elk matching what was agreed are bought from a breeder and taken to the ranch. They are penned in a tiny enclosure with plenty of food and water for a week or two. Then they are moved a short distance to a different pen where there is NO FOOD OR WATER for a few days. On the morning of the big hunt the client is put in a position overlooking "where a big bull has been seen traveling every morning heading back to his bedding area." Unknown to the hunter, the hungry/thirsty bull is relaesed from it's pen and heads for the only place it knows about for food and water, straight past the hunter. All the hunter knows is that he got the best guide in the world and had a great hunt; hand shakes and tips all around. </p><p></p><p>Whenever there is big money to be made or big egos to be boosted, people are going to find ways to cheat and scam.How about the computer hunting that was banned all over?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="blackco, post: 150340, member: 7356"] Oh heck, I'll jump in on this too. It sounds like we all agree that "canned" hunts don't count as hunting. I have also used the annalogy that "hunting" inside a pen is like shooting my friends free-ranging cattle. Only the cattle are cheeper and there is more meat. BUT! the absence of a fence doesn't mean fair-chase either. My dad was asked to "guide" for "fair-chase" elk in Oregon, he declined when he learned how it all worked. The client paid $5000 to hunt plus $1000 per point; agreed upon before the hunt. Elk matching what was agreed are bought from a breeder and taken to the ranch. They are penned in a tiny enclosure with plenty of food and water for a week or two. Then they are moved a short distance to a different pen where there is NO FOOD OR WATER for a few days. On the morning of the big hunt the client is put in a position overlooking "where a big bull has been seen traveling every morning heading back to his bedding area." Unknown to the hunter, the hungry/thirsty bull is relaesed from it's pen and heads for the only place it knows about for food and water, straight past the hunter. All the hunter knows is that he got the best guide in the world and had a great hunt; hand shakes and tips all around. Whenever there is big money to be made or big egos to be boosted, people are going to find ways to cheat and scam.How about the computer hunting that was banned all over? [/QUOTE]
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