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I Continue to be Amazed with the 215 Hybrid
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<blockquote data-quote="Broz" data-source="post: 732468" data-attributes="member: 7503"><p>Phorwath, the biggest difference I have seen in what I will call a noticeable pattern between the 210 HVLD and the 215 Target Hybrid is this. In my rifle the 210 was what I will call a solid 1/2 moa rifle to 1000. That means if the group was not .5 moa or a little below it was just slightly above .5 moa. With the 215 it seems I can depend on the groups to have tightened up .2 to .3 moa to 1000. It makes me wonder if I should have spent more time with the 210's load development or if the higher BC of the 215 is helping out. Or ... is the 215 just a more accurate bullet in my rifle.</p><p> </p><p>As far as terminal performance and wound channels, here is how I compare them. First the 210's were killing stuff just as dead for me. I have never tracked an animal with a 210 in it. But it appears the 215's are fragmenting more at closer distances. The shots under 600 yards start out like all did with the 215 with a perfect .308 entrance. But soon after it was in it produced a wound channel like a point blank shot from 12 ga. 00 buck. The fragments tore an wound channel no smaller than 2 to 3" and sent a small percentage of fragments off in a spreading pattern. On smaller animals the exits are large under 600. On the elk the penetration was up to 26" for the 200 yard angle shot with only fragments and the back 1/2 of the jacket to be found just under the hide on the off side. This is bad medicine for any animal and even the ones with less than perfect placement were down in a few steps. One bull did stand long enough for us to consider a follow up shot, but in a short time he was wobbling and went down doing the declining side step. This shot landed at the rear of the rib cage and a little high. The bullet did a better job than we did. I do feel I would have gotten more exits under 600 from the 210 HVLD's though. From 600 on out to as far as I shot game (1285) was were the 215 looked awesome for me. All were showing the same .308 entrance but a more defined wound channel and an exit around 1 1/2" consistently. I am trying to remember here but I think all the kills from 800 out were DRT's dropping in their tracks. That includes shots at 777, 780, 802, 972, 1005, and 1285. </p><p> </p><p>So I guess in a nut shell, more expansion at closer ranges with the 215 and better long range wound channels than the 210 from 600 to 1285.</p><p> </p><p>Jeff</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Broz, post: 732468, member: 7503"] Phorwath, the biggest difference I have seen in what I will call a noticeable pattern between the 210 HVLD and the 215 Target Hybrid is this. In my rifle the 210 was what I will call a solid 1/2 moa rifle to 1000. That means if the group was not .5 moa or a little below it was just slightly above .5 moa. With the 215 it seems I can depend on the groups to have tightened up .2 to .3 moa to 1000. It makes me wonder if I should have spent more time with the 210's load development or if the higher BC of the 215 is helping out. Or ... is the 215 just a more accurate bullet in my rifle. As far as terminal performance and wound channels, here is how I compare them. First the 210's were killing stuff just as dead for me. I have never tracked an animal with a 210 in it. But it appears the 215's are fragmenting more at closer distances. The shots under 600 yards start out like all did with the 215 with a perfect .308 entrance. But soon after it was in it produced a wound channel like a point blank shot from 12 ga. 00 buck. The fragments tore an wound channel no smaller than 2 to 3" and sent a small percentage of fragments off in a spreading pattern. On smaller animals the exits are large under 600. On the elk the penetration was up to 26" for the 200 yard angle shot with only fragments and the back 1/2 of the jacket to be found just under the hide on the off side. This is bad medicine for any animal and even the ones with less than perfect placement were down in a few steps. One bull did stand long enough for us to consider a follow up shot, but in a short time he was wobbling and went down doing the declining side step. This shot landed at the rear of the rib cage and a little high. The bullet did a better job than we did. I do feel I would have gotten more exits under 600 from the 210 HVLD's though. From 600 on out to as far as I shot game (1285) was were the 215 looked awesome for me. All were showing the same .308 entrance but a more defined wound channel and an exit around 1 1/2" consistently. I am trying to remember here but I think all the kills from 800 out were DRT's dropping in their tracks. That includes shots at 777, 780, 802, 972, 1005, and 1285. So I guess in a nut shell, more expansion at closer ranges with the 215 and better long range wound channels than the 210 from 600 to 1285. Jeff [/QUOTE]
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