Hunting scope

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by Cajuncoonazz, Jul 14, 2012.

  1. Cajuncoonazz

    Cajuncoonazz Active Member

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    Looking for the best hunting scope out there. I have a budget of $2000. Its goin on a .300 RUM. I mostly hunt in louisiana where most of the longest shots are 300 yds but there is a time or 2 that a 500 ud shot is possible. But once a year i go to nebraska where a 300 yd shot is regular and 400-500 shots qre quite possible. So what yall think fellas?!?
     
  2. Armored Transport

    Armored Transport Well-Known Member

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    Bushnell HDMR 3.5-21X50. A few real nice reticles offered. I have one with the H59 and love it. gun):D
     

  3. Truc

    Truc Well-Known Member

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    but 35 oz's? seems a little heavy to me, might as well get a Niteforce
     
  4. backwoods83

    backwoods83 Well-Known Member

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    Personally for your intended use I would get a 6-24x50 Sightron SIII with the mildot or lrmoa reticle for around 750.00 and keep 1250.00 for something else. Sightron is the poor mans Nightforce and they are an excellent product, I have both and there is a lot of difference except price.
     
  5. gamehawker

    gamehawker Well-Known Member

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    I absolutely love my three Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP EBR-1 MOA Reticle Scopes.

    I feel that they offer a lot of features for the price, they track perfectly and I feel they have great glass.

    The hard part is finding is going to find a vendor that has them in stock because they are so popular!
     
  6. aspenbugle

    aspenbugle Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of threads on this I think - you mention "BEST", "$2,000" and "500yds or less". I think the answer is pretty easily one of the good european scopes: Zeiss, Swarovski, Schmidt & Bender...

    They have some great models at or just below that price. Read the "Ziess vs. NF" thread here. Most agree the Zeiss, Swaro etc. have better glass (better image, cleaner, crisper, brighter etc. ) than even the Nightforce. If you wanted a 1000yd+ gun, then the NF would make a lot of sense - great adjustment, built like a tank. If you are at 500 yds and less and you want "the best" for under $2000, the Ziess, Swaro, S&B are it - they have the best optics and don't weigh a ton, yet are still tough and reliable.

    I have a NF and a good Swaroski - the Swarovski is much better for the use you mention. If you look through it or the Zeiss 500 yards across a beanfield at dusk they will blow away most of these lesser scopes.
     
  7. Cajuncoonazz

    Cajuncoonazz Active Member

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    Thanks everyone for yall help. Now do i get one with a ballistic turret r jus set my gun 3in. High(like i been doin)?
     
  8. backwoods83

    backwoods83 Well-Known Member

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    I think what might meet all your expectations is a Zeiss Conquest 6.5-20x50 with the rapid Z 800 or 1000 reticle, zero it at 100 and check to see how close your drops match the hash marks. The Sightron lrmoa reticle is similar as is the Vortex deadhold bdc.
     
  9. aspenbugle

    aspenbugle Well-Known Member

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    Some may be your personal preference and some will depend on what and how you are hunting. Are you deer hunting? Are you hunting primarily from a stand or do a fair amount of walking? Are you likely to see game at 100 yards and less, maybe running that you might like to shoot at?

    - You don't need a ballistic turret to dial in clicks - you can take caps off the good european scopes and do your clicks if you want (very repeatable). If you were shooting a lot at really long range and many different distances, you'd probably want the ballistic turret. They are big and bulky and get in the way at times if you are are a walking hunter at all. Either way you can dial up and down, but you really would only need that for around 500. You could about aim dead-on for 300+ yards and 10-12" high at 400 - so you'd rarely need to "click" in adjustments

    - As backwoods83 mentioned, you could get a ballistic type reticle with a few hash marks to use for longer distances. Just keep in mind, there is almost always some type of compromise - the thinner, more complex reticles are great for different drops, but that can slow you down if all you want to do is quickly aim and shoot, or the thin lines can get lost in real dim conditions unless you have an illuminated reticle. Again, depends on what and how you hunt...

    - You could use a "normal" scope and "normal/plex" reticle and again, really only need an aid one the rare occasions you were shooting closer to 500 (hold over, click, use the bottom of the plex reticle etc.)

    If you are always on a stand and have lots of time, something like a 6.5-20 may be fine. I walk and hunt too, and sometimes need to be able to quickly acquire an animal running or close up, or in thick timber. I'd never want 6.5x for my min. mangnification. I like at least 3x or 4x so you can "find em" quickly. Also, 20x is nice I guess, especially for prarie dogs etc. but for deer-size game guys have been using 3x9 for many years out to 500. Something like a 3-12, 4-16 etc may be good...depends what you're hunting and how you hunt. My 3-12 is totally adequate out to 700yds+ for larger game.

    No offense to any other posters, but when you said BEST - Zeiss Conquest and Sightron aren't it - they are good, but they aren't $2000 Zeiss/Swaro good. I have a Zeiss Conquest on a light-weight hunting rifle and it is good/acceptable. It is NO WHERE NEAR the same quality in looks or feel to it's $2k relatives or my Swaro. It has Zeiss's name on it, and it's good, but you are talking apples and oranges compared to the better 30mm tube models. If you change your description to a "good scope at a good price or trying to save some money" then it's a different story, but none of these $1k and less scopes will hold a candle to those 2x their price in a good european scope. If you have the coin - you won't regret the purchase.
     
  10. Long Time Long Ranger

    Long Time Long Ranger Well-Known Member

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    get a Z6 Swarovski and have the best glass in the world for seeing in the dark if needed. You can get one well under $2000 and have the best. I have two in the box well under that price I could let you have one of those for what I paid for it. If you have the money why not get the best glass out there.
     
  11. mike33

    mike33 Well-Known Member

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    What power do you have. Never had a swaro scope but sure love there bincs. Ive been kicking around another scope for my carry lr 338 rum. What adjustments do they have on swaro 6?
    Mike
     
  12. WildRose

    WildRose Well-Known Member

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    Depends on how precise you wish to be.

    The ballistic compensating turrets work fairly well, but then so does just holding over/under based on range starting with a zero at 300-400yds.

    If you want the max precision get straight MOA turrets with 1/4 MOA adjustments and set your actual click values from your hundred yard zero based on whatever your ballistic calculator or cheat sheet shows.

    For quick shots either of the two you are talking about are the best, but for the more precise shots where you have time to actually dope and dial the latter is by far superior.
     
  13. Nimrod

    Nimrod Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much says it all right there! Not that I'm an expert by any means but it has been my experience that with optics the old saying that "you get what you pay for" has never been more true.
    I'm a Leupold fan but they are the best I can afford and most of the time I can't afford those. You can bet if I had the spare change I would be looking hard at the top end euro stuff.

    Out to 500 yards I have been using a ballistic reticle with good success, the not an expert comment applies here as well, just a beginner so take it for what it is worth.

    Good luck!

    Bob
     
  14. Cajuncoonazz

    Cajuncoonazz Active Member

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    Thanks again everyone yall opnions been very helpful i guess when it comes down to it sounds like to each his own.