well, I've been busy as heck this year and haven't gotten out shooting much, but I did yesterday again. I was shooting my savage 12 w/ a 12 twist 22-250 and 40 gr vmax's set on top of 39.5g IMR 4895. I was getting about 4250 fps w/ my chrono ( not sure how accurate it is but I think it is in the ballpark???). Anywho... I shot my first group w/ 3 rds at 200 w/in about 1.5" or so. Next group using a bipod shot 3 rounds and two hit paper about 3" apart and a third missed the 8.5 x 11" paper. I was a little embarased to say the least. I shot a total of 7-3 rd groups at 200 yards and I was getting similar results... bipod didn't work to well w/ the cheap factory stock but when shooting off of sand bags I was able to get either a .75 MOA group or I was getting 5-6" or even missing the paper all together. I know this isn't a very good test, and it will have to be done again to confirm, but I'm wondering if I could be experiencing bullet failure w/ pushing the light bullet a little too fast. I will also add that the bore of this rifle is not that smooth... It is hard as H-E-double toothpicks to clean the copper out. I'm no BR shooter or anything, but I hope I haven't lost my edge by that much LOL! Thanks for any insite, Mark.