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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 483680" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>Howdy Kirby, hope you're having a great Montana day <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Let's start by looking at what actually said...."you might be pushung that action a bit with the EDGE." Didn't say for sure that the Howa is not up to it. And here (posted link) is one reason why I mentioned it, (and another reason I'll share in PM).</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/new-sendero-troubles-67357/index3.html" target="_blank">http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/new-sendero-troubles-67357/index3.html</a></p><p></p><p>If you follow this thread from post #19 - #28, one of our members pointed out to me that the Howa's are made of investment cast, and are known for catastrophic failure's in the larger mags in his country (he provides a picture of one such failure of one chambered in the Lapua). To what extent this is a real problem, I am unsure? Maybe a few guys just tried to push it too hard? That being said, I am "unsure" of the Howa's ability to handle an overpressure situation and "my view" on the subject is not to have them chambered in anything larger then what the factory chambers them in, ie., the 300 Wby Mag.</p><p></p><p>Another reason besides it's well proven and known strength, and I am just guessing on this one, is that the Mark V probably has a mag box that will already accommodate the Lapua (or RUM) without modification. This falls in line with the KISS principle and allows the client to put $$$ toward a superior action vs making the lesser action fit the need. Another reason, in order to seat 180 E-Tips to just off the lands in my 700 300 RUM i need a COAL of 3.74 which does not allow me to put more than one down in the 700 mag box. The COAL for the 210 Bergers is 3.75. I suppose the throat could be reamed a little shorter, but that would result in the bullets encroaching on case capacity - probably not a real big deal but I would like to get all the efficiency I can.</p><p></p><p>On the cost diff between the Howa and Mark V... for a budget build, one could get a used Mark V Accumark for less than a $1000, maybe even $700 or so if one looked around a bit, and have a good stock and action for a reasonable price.</p><p></p><p>While we're on the subject, I would love to know your opinion on the the Howa and 700 action. I have rifles with both actions and like the Howa better, not that the 700 isn't a good action, but for reasons list in the thread I linked, I do like the Howa better.</p><p></p><p>Cheers, looking forward to your thoughts <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>-Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 483680, member: 11717"] Howdy Kirby, hope you're having a great Montana day :) Let's start by looking at what actually said...."you might be pushung that action a bit with the EDGE." Didn't say for sure that the Howa is not up to it. And here (posted link) is one reason why I mentioned it, (and another reason I'll share in PM). [URL]http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/new-sendero-troubles-67357/index3.html[/URL] If you follow this thread from post #19 - #28, one of our members pointed out to me that the Howa's are made of investment cast, and are known for catastrophic failure's in the larger mags in his country (he provides a picture of one such failure of one chambered in the Lapua). To what extent this is a real problem, I am unsure? Maybe a few guys just tried to push it too hard? That being said, I am "unsure" of the Howa's ability to handle an overpressure situation and "my view" on the subject is not to have them chambered in anything larger then what the factory chambers them in, ie., the 300 Wby Mag. Another reason besides it's well proven and known strength, and I am just guessing on this one, is that the Mark V probably has a mag box that will already accommodate the Lapua (or RUM) without modification. This falls in line with the KISS principle and allows the client to put $$$ toward a superior action vs making the lesser action fit the need. Another reason, in order to seat 180 E-Tips to just off the lands in my 700 300 RUM i need a COAL of 3.74 which does not allow me to put more than one down in the 700 mag box. The COAL for the 210 Bergers is 3.75. I suppose the throat could be reamed a little shorter, but that would result in the bullets encroaching on case capacity - probably not a real big deal but I would like to get all the efficiency I can. On the cost diff between the Howa and Mark V... for a budget build, one could get a used Mark V Accumark for less than a $1000, maybe even $700 or so if one looked around a bit, and have a good stock and action for a reasonable price. While we're on the subject, I would love to know your opinion on the the Howa and 700 action. I have rifles with both actions and like the Howa better, not that the 700 isn't a good action, but for reasons list in the thread I linked, I do like the Howa better. Cheers, looking forward to your thoughts :) -Mark [/QUOTE]
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