how much scope is enough?

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by garsticker, Jun 9, 2007.

  1. garsticker

    garsticker Well-Known Member

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    I am building my first long range rifle and plan on alot of action when the pines are cleared out on our place. The problem I keep having is in scope choice. My question is how much scope is enough? 3x12 or 6.5x20 or somewhere in between. I will buy upper end optics for sure but I have never done really long distance hunting and was wondering about what was enough and how much is overkill. By the way I will mainly be hunting deer in TN maybe a coyote or 2
     

  2. Black Diamond 408

    Black Diamond 408 Well-Known Member

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    You didn't mention the distances you will be shooting. If your going with a top end scope then get a Nightforce 5.5-22x56 ... that is mostly the scope of choice for long range hunting, it will also work well for close shots too.

    Dave
     

  3. garsticker

    garsticker Well-Known Member

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    I'll probabaly top out at 600 yards. The vast majority of shots around the 300 to 400 mark. I was going to buy a Diavari 3x12x56 and then was thinking that I may need more
    power. I wasn't thrilled with the nightforce optics because of the narrow field of view but I do notice alot of folks shoot them.
     
  4. jwp475

    jwp475 Well-Known Member

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    I think that the 3X12X56 would be a very good scope for your purpose. I mostly use 3.5X15 or 4X16 power. I also have a 5.5X22 but do not like it as much for an ALL around scope,definitely for past 1K the 22 power shines.....[​IMG]
     
  5. Perkules

    Perkules Well-Known Member

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    I'll probabaly top out at 600 yards. The vast majority of shots around the 300 to 400 mark. I was going to buy a Diavari 3x12x56 and then was thinking that I may need more
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    The better the glass quality, the less magnification is really needed. Quite a matter of taste... I was shooting an A4 size target the other day at 500 meters using 5x magnification on a Karl Kaps Sniper 2.5-10 x 56. Ok hits, no problems at all. We have a crazy heat wave going on up here and more magnification was quite useless, hot air disturbing the picture.

    With that Kaps at 10x I can see 30 cal bullet holes from 400 meters in a brown IPSC target, I´d say 10x is enough for up to 1000 meters/miles or so for deer size targets. Fine reticle of course.

    In my case, less has turned into more. I like to see what is happening around the target area,too. And I have used much more magnification earlier... now my shooting is much better.

    Also, it´s nice to have that 2.5 , ready for an occasional "surprise deer" up close. But these all are highly personal opinions and depend on what you are possibly encountering in the woods.

    There was a brown bear a few miles from my home last week. I sure wouldn´t like to face one at 50 yards with a 6 x scope.
     
  6. Nomosendero

    Nomosendero Well-Known Member

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    I am curious, what would a crazy heat wave in Finland mean?
    What temperatures are we talking about.
     
  7. sharpshooter1

    sharpshooter1 Well-Known Member

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    I´d say 10x is enough for up to 1000 meters/miles or so for deer size targets.

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    Heck I shoot golf ball sized targets out to 1000 miles all the time with my eleventybillionsuperbanger magum and a 10x scope /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
     
  8. Perkules

    Perkules Well-Known Member

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    I´d say 10x is enough for up to 1000 meters/miles or so for deer size targets.

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    Heck I shoot golf ball sized targets out to 1000 miles all the time with my eleventybillionsuperbanger magum and a 10x scope /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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    Oops my yards became miles lol. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    It´s been sunshine and over 30 C ( 90 F) where I shoot for a week now. The mirage is quite serious, add a warm suppressor and it gets interesting.
     
  9. Alan Griffith

    Alan Griffith Well-Known Member

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    One thing, besides the the Schott Glass (same stuff in Zeiss), I really liked was the 1:6 ratio for IOR scopes. My 3-18x42 Tactical is an awesome peice of glass. I can crank it down to 3x for walking around and up to any power I feel is capable of completing the task at hand, based upon the mirage.

    875 yard Ackley w/ IOR 3-18x42 Tactical scope
    Just realized the phot's date is wrong. It was about 2 weeks back.
    Right side of Rem 700 w/ IOR 3-18x42 in 30-06 Ackley

    For reference, the gongs are 15" x 25" (20" to top of shoulder)and 10" round from LV Steel.