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How many rounds to develop a load?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Thomas" data-source="post: 273373" data-attributes="member: 15748"><p>So you have 25 (!) rounds downrange and you STILL don't have a load!?!?!?</p><p></p><p>Sorry, I couldn't resist. Hey, these things take time, and a lot of reloaders don't want to hear that. Don't know why, since a day at the range sure beats a day in the office. Unless you're dealing with something like an M14/M1A or and AR Service Rifle, you're going to wind up spending time developing your loads. With these, the loads are so well known and so well proven that it's almost a waste of time trying to reinvent the wheel, if you get my drift. Back when everyone shot M14s, you didn't work up your load. You stuck in about 41 grains of 4895 under a 168 MK, and you went to the range. Guaranteed, 95% of the other guys on the line would be using the exact same load. If it didn't shoot, there was something wrong with the gun, period. AR Service Rifles are much the same these days, with either Reloder 15 or Varget (about evenly split) under a 77 and/or 80 Match bullet. Done, and everyone knows it'll work, or your gun needs help.</p><p></p><p>Hunting rifles are a different story, especially with cartridges that don't see the volume of firing that the others do. That should be part of the fun of them, but it does take time and effort. I'd recommend trying at least threde different powders in the 264, probably at least two or three different powders, and whatever bullets you want to use. Change only one component at a time, and record your results. There's a process to this, and it will take some bad groups to see what's going on. Don't get discouraged, because at some point you shpould start seeing improved groups. Narrow in on that, and start making smaller refinements at that point, again, changing only one variable at a time. You'll see the improvements start taking shape, and know you're getting closer. And at some point, you should actually realize that you're having fun and getting excited about all this. Once you get there, congratulations, and welcome to handloading.</p><p></p><p>Yiou've already got 7828, but I'd suggest also trying H1000 and Retumbo. I'm sure some other folks on here, ideally who've had some experience with the 264 Win Mag, will have some input for you as well. </p><p></p><p>Kevin Thomas</p><p>Berger Bullets</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Thomas, post: 273373, member: 15748"] So you have 25 (!) rounds downrange and you STILL don't have a load!?!?!? Sorry, I couldn't resist. Hey, these things take time, and a lot of reloaders don't want to hear that. Don't know why, since a day at the range sure beats a day in the office. Unless you're dealing with something like an M14/M1A or and AR Service Rifle, you're going to wind up spending time developing your loads. With these, the loads are so well known and so well proven that it's almost a waste of time trying to reinvent the wheel, if you get my drift. Back when everyone shot M14s, you didn't work up your load. You stuck in about 41 grains of 4895 under a 168 MK, and you went to the range. Guaranteed, 95% of the other guys on the line would be using the exact same load. If it didn't shoot, there was something wrong with the gun, period. AR Service Rifles are much the same these days, with either Reloder 15 or Varget (about evenly split) under a 77 and/or 80 Match bullet. Done, and everyone knows it'll work, or your gun needs help. Hunting rifles are a different story, especially with cartridges that don't see the volume of firing that the others do. That should be part of the fun of them, but it does take time and effort. I'd recommend trying at least threde different powders in the 264, probably at least two or three different powders, and whatever bullets you want to use. Change only one component at a time, and record your results. There's a process to this, and it will take some bad groups to see what's going on. Don't get discouraged, because at some point you shpould start seeing improved groups. Narrow in on that, and start making smaller refinements at that point, again, changing only one variable at a time. You'll see the improvements start taking shape, and know you're getting closer. And at some point, you should actually realize that you're having fun and getting excited about all this. Once you get there, congratulations, and welcome to handloading. Yiou've already got 7828, but I'd suggest also trying H1000 and Retumbo. I'm sure some other folks on here, ideally who've had some experience with the 264 Win Mag, will have some input for you as well. Kevin Thomas Berger Bullets [/QUOTE]
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