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How far can a 308 responsibly take game?
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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Eichele" data-source="post: 1003240" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>I've also been working with the 190 ABLR in my 26" 308. So far the results have been excellent. My accuracy load is at 2646'sec though I have taken them to 2750+ with ease. It's just that my rifle likes 190 grain bullets the least of all bullets. 190SMK, 190VLD, 190ABLR, doesn't matter. That said, it'll shoot any of those over any powder and hold 1MOA or better but I'm always looking for <1/2MOA. When I first had it rebarreled, I tried 190 SMKs over a host of powders. The only group that was a ragged hole was 42.5 of 4320. The problem was that I only had less than a pound and didn't want to burn it (pun intended). I finally found 7 pounds from the same lot though it's a different lot than the one pound I have had. I loaded some ABLRs with the original lot of powder and they made a ragged hole at 100 yards. Loaded up some more and they shot under 1" at 300 yards. Loaded some up this morning with the new lot and still shot under 1" at 300! Velocity is within 5'sec to boot! I'll be taking these to 600 and 700 tomorrow and 600-1000 on Sunday. Bryan tested these at .291 G7. If these are at .291 these will hit the 970'# mark at 1000 yards with under 65" 10 MPH wind, 5000' 59 degrees which is about where I hunt deer, sheep and antelope. Bryan listed the 210 at .333G7 and I found that to be spot on from 100-1000 yards so I'm hoping his value for the 190 is of equal accuracy. </p><p></p><p>If this is the case, this may be the only load I'd ever use in my 308. The 190 would handle anything from coyotes to mule deer to a grand and black bear to elk at 800. Granted it offers a little more windage and a little less energy than the 210 but it also offers noticeably less recoil (low recoil is why I use the 308 in the 1st place) than my 210 load.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Eichele, post: 1003240, member: 1007"] I've also been working with the 190 ABLR in my 26" 308. So far the results have been excellent. My accuracy load is at 2646'sec though I have taken them to 2750+ with ease. It's just that my rifle likes 190 grain bullets the least of all bullets. 190SMK, 190VLD, 190ABLR, doesn't matter. That said, it'll shoot any of those over any powder and hold 1MOA or better but I'm always looking for <1/2MOA. When I first had it rebarreled, I tried 190 SMKs over a host of powders. The only group that was a ragged hole was 42.5 of 4320. The problem was that I only had less than a pound and didn't want to burn it (pun intended). I finally found 7 pounds from the same lot though it's a different lot than the one pound I have had. I loaded some ABLRs with the original lot of powder and they made a ragged hole at 100 yards. Loaded up some more and they shot under 1" at 300 yards. Loaded some up this morning with the new lot and still shot under 1" at 300! Velocity is within 5'sec to boot! I'll be taking these to 600 and 700 tomorrow and 600-1000 on Sunday. Bryan tested these at .291 G7. If these are at .291 these will hit the 970'# mark at 1000 yards with under 65" 10 MPH wind, 5000' 59 degrees which is about where I hunt deer, sheep and antelope. Bryan listed the 210 at .333G7 and I found that to be spot on from 100-1000 yards so I'm hoping his value for the 190 is of equal accuracy. If this is the case, this may be the only load I'd ever use in my 308. The 190 would handle anything from coyotes to mule deer to a grand and black bear to elk at 800. Granted it offers a little more windage and a little less energy than the 210 but it also offers noticeably less recoil (low recoil is why I use the 308 in the 1st place) than my 210 load. [/QUOTE]
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