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How far before you need a level?
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<blockquote data-quote="RDM416" data-source="post: 456335" data-attributes="member: 3745"><p>Tikkamike, </p><p> </p><p>The short answer in my opinion is around 400 yards for hunting. </p><p> </p><p>I use a level on all my long range rifles and have developed a habit of always glancing at it before I take the shot. It is amazing how often I am way off level. The terrain, your rest and other factors can create the illusion you are level when you are not. If you start to use a level I expect your groups will shrink at all ranges. </p><p> </p><p>The math could be done to determin how much effect "canting" your rifle will have at various ranges. The higher your scope is above the bore the greater the effect will be. I'm sure there is a formula out ther somewhere, the vaiables would be: inches above the bore (scope center), amount of cant, distance. </p><p> </p><p>Since you are shooting at 800 yards I would suggest a level would be a significant improvement to your set-up. In my experience I have come to prefer the type that mounts on the scope itself rather than the ones that mount on the rail. I have had trouble having to shim the ones that mount on the rail to get them level. Not an issue on the ones that mount on scope. I like the one by US Optics that Midway sells, they are a little pricey at about 70 bucks, but they are built to take abuse and come with a removable screw on cover that protects the level when not in use. The way they mount allows me to put them on the very end of my scope behind the rear ring. The level itself then protrudes either to the right or left side of the scope at about the bottom of the tube. I mount mine on the left side. This allows me to open my left eye a crack and look at the level without breaking my cheekweld.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDM416, post: 456335, member: 3745"] Tikkamike, The short answer in my opinion is around 400 yards for hunting. I use a level on all my long range rifles and have developed a habit of always glancing at it before I take the shot. It is amazing how often I am way off level. The terrain, your rest and other factors can create the illusion you are level when you are not. If you start to use a level I expect your groups will shrink at all ranges. The math could be done to determin how much effect "canting" your rifle will have at various ranges. The higher your scope is above the bore the greater the effect will be. I'm sure there is a formula out ther somewhere, the vaiables would be: inches above the bore (scope center), amount of cant, distance. Since you are shooting at 800 yards I would suggest a level would be a significant improvement to your set-up. In my experience I have come to prefer the type that mounts on the scope itself rather than the ones that mount on the rail. I have had trouble having to shim the ones that mount on the rail to get them level. Not an issue on the ones that mount on scope. I like the one by US Optics that Midway sells, they are a little pricey at about 70 bucks, but they are built to take abuse and come with a removable screw on cover that protects the level when not in use. The way they mount allows me to put them on the very end of my scope behind the rear ring. The level itself then protrudes either to the right or left side of the scope at about the bottom of the tube. I mount mine on the left side. This allows me to open my left eye a crack and look at the level without breaking my cheekweld. [/QUOTE]
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