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<blockquote data-quote="Alibiiv" data-source="post: 2560366" data-attributes="member: 69192"><p>I am not certain about how to make 25-06 AIs from 30-06 brass, however I suspect there's more to it than simply running the 30-06 brass into a 25-06AI resizing die. Before I started any of the processes of forming these casings, I would start out annealing the brass first. Annealing "will" make anything that you do here a whole lot easier. As for shooting 25-06 cases smaller and they "ain't gonna grow", I am not certain this will be the case either. I shoot .270 Winchester brass in my .270AI, I have never had any shortness issues. If the chamber is reamed and set up properly, and from you have written it is, the brass ought to be fine after fire forming. If you really want to save on components, you could go to a "hydro-forming" process. Whidden and Hornady make hydro forming dies for around $200. The process is a little messy because it requires filling a case with water, however it does work well enough to get your brass formed for a first firing. I have hydro-form dies made by Hornady for the .270AI, when they "did" work they did a fine job, however I will never order them from Hornady again and if I were to go the hydro-form route it would be with Whidden. I have been able to use the Hornady dies to make 14 rounds before the die gave me trouble. I called Hornady, they sent out a new plunger for the die, that too did not work either. So....if it's the hydro form process, then Whidden it will be. I still believe that COW is the way to go. You can buy a lot of cream-of-wheat for $200, and we are talking about 15+- grains of a fast burning powder like Unique or Bullseye, and....it does work well. My other question is "how much brass are you intending for fire form to be concerned about fire forming them??" From what you have posted you are looking for fire form 150 pieces of brass; 150 primers and and 1/3 pound of powder, and some COW. I am feeding two .270AIs and not going through that much brass to be concerned about the cost to make them, and I am fire forming Winchester brass and that is nowhere the quality of the brass you are using.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alibiiv, post: 2560366, member: 69192"] I am not certain about how to make 25-06 AIs from 30-06 brass, however I suspect there's more to it than simply running the 30-06 brass into a 25-06AI resizing die. Before I started any of the processes of forming these casings, I would start out annealing the brass first. Annealing "will" make anything that you do here a whole lot easier. As for shooting 25-06 cases smaller and they "ain't gonna grow", I am not certain this will be the case either. I shoot .270 Winchester brass in my .270AI, I have never had any shortness issues. If the chamber is reamed and set up properly, and from you have written it is, the brass ought to be fine after fire forming. If you really want to save on components, you could go to a "hydro-forming" process. Whidden and Hornady make hydro forming dies for around $200. The process is a little messy because it requires filling a case with water, however it does work well enough to get your brass formed for a first firing. I have hydro-form dies made by Hornady for the .270AI, when they "did" work they did a fine job, however I will never order them from Hornady again and if I were to go the hydro-form route it would be with Whidden. I have been able to use the Hornady dies to make 14 rounds before the die gave me trouble. I called Hornady, they sent out a new plunger for the die, that too did not work either. So....if it's the hydro form process, then Whidden it will be. I still believe that COW is the way to go. You can buy a lot of cream-of-wheat for $200, and we are talking about 15+- grains of a fast burning powder like Unique or Bullseye, and....it does work well. My other question is "how much brass are you intending for fire form to be concerned about fire forming them??" From what you have posted you are looking for fire form 150 pieces of brass; 150 primers and and 1/3 pound of powder, and some COW. I am feeding two .270AIs and not going through that much brass to be concerned about the cost to make them, and I am fire forming Winchester brass and that is nowhere the quality of the brass you are using. [/QUOTE]
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