Thanks for al lthe responses on my last post. I have a newly built 6.5 284 Norma built on a tika action with a 28 inch Burx barrel giving me some nice little 1/4 clusters at 100 yards. I have tried two powders, reloader 22 and H4831SC. Everybody says to go with Hodgeson so that is what I am going to do. So here is what my velocities are now: 2980 2957 2980 2985 2963 2981 2964 Basically I only hae a 100 yard range to work with and I only have CCI bench rest primers. I am shooting Berger 140 grain VLD's at 10.000ths down from full jam. I could probably move the bullet in alittle bit, but the group starts to open up if I move it out. I am just not sure what the practices are to get this extreme spread down. ANy advice would be greatly helpful...forgot to mention I am loading 52.8 grains of Hodgeson.