How big would you say he is

Discussion in 'Bear Hunting' started by Boyd Heaton, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. Boyd Heaton

    Boyd Heaton Well-Known Member

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  2. nfhjr62

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    If in Pa. you can tell the weight by the color and number of tags in each ear if no tags does it have a radio collar if none of anything it most likely is a first year cub and i have seen some cubs in the 3 to 350 lb size.
    Not sure on these two bears.
     

  3. Akbushape

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    Got a kick out of that nfhjr62:D.
    Boyd, this a tough one since there is not a lot to go by for size reference. Don't know the size of the stump, bushes ect. But this looks like a pretty big
    black bear. ( Looks like he has a bad case of the green apple trots:). )
    Without any thing much to reference on other than the bear himself and the
    way he moves I'd guess him in the 7foot range. He's a big bear.
     
  4. Merlin

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    350 lb cub??? I feel bad for its mother!:D Is hard to tell, but he's a good one. Maybe 450-500 lbs. But that's just a guess.
     
  5. nathank

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    i dont think it would go 300 pounds its not round enough like a barrel
     
  6. JUDD

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    350-400 lbs. It looks like a decent bear to me.
     
  7. Sourdough

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    Too gangly, ears too big, head too small, I'd pass.
     
  8. royinidaho

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    I'm guessing this vid is a spring shot. THe larger bear is kind of lanky w/rough hair on its sides. Plus it looks like it's been doing the polkberry thing......

    Its a good'n. If you could kind of baby sit it until fall you'd have one heck of a troph.

    I may be all wrong, but from the 250 pounders I've seen the big fella has the potential for fully twice that.

    Put it on the scales and report back.:)
     
  9. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    Boyd, I'm originally a PA boy myself and have seen plenty of blackies in my back yard here in MT. The tree stump wasn't real big... looks like someone might have cut down a young ash.

    Mama and cub and Mama went 250 max.

    Real nice pics though :)

    MR
     
  10. phorwath

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    It's a pretty short clip with not a lot of opportunity to judge size, so I wouldn't bet the farm on this estimate. I'm presuming a sow with cub and if that's the case, I would agree with MontanaRifleman's estimate.

    The smaller bear didn't look big enough to be an adult sow hooked up with a bigger boar for purposes of mating.
     
  11. Akbushape

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    Now guy's, the smaller bear ain't no cub. Go back and look at it again.
    The size of the head in relation to the size of the body is about all we have to
    go on in this clip, with just a little help from the way they move. On cubs the
    head is big in relation to the body size. The older the bear gets the smaller the head looks in relation to body size.
    As for movement, cubs in their first and second year tend to sort of "scamper"
    along as they run while the older bears appear to sort of roll along. The older
    they get the more pronounced this rolling motion becomes. We don't get to
    see much of the smalller bears movements in the clip, but the bigger bear
    definitely demonstrates the rolling motion of a big bear. I think royinidaho is
    probably fairly close in his assesment.
     
  12. royinidaho

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    Whooo Hoooo!!!!:D Now can I hire out as a guide or somethin':rolleyes:
     
  13. phorwath

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    An obvious method of assisting size estimation would be to determine if this was a sow and cub, or a boar and sow by their behaviors. There wasn't enough video here to tell if the bigger bear had the hots for the smaller one or not. Or vica-versa. I saw a smaller boar mount a larger sow brown bear on Kodiak Island during one of my brown bear hunts.

    There's always the subsistence method. Paste'em and pull out the tape measure and scales after-the-fact. I've been known to use that method - after I determined the bear was legal for the taking under the hunting regulations.
     
  14. 500/416nitro

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    Looks like a nice bear, comparing the video to a few bear I have harvested i would guess the bear goes 400lbs. Plus.