My question comes from so many shooters shooting one rifle and have different point of aims. Like my shop rifle. I have put the flatline ops levels on and been playing with them and seems like I am chasing a fairly tale. . Here are the ways that I have tried. 1. Just using talley one piece lightweight rings and using my wheeler leveling kit. Has the level for the turret caps and the barrel clamp level. I will level off the rings or base and try to compare. Have done both. I have also used a short torpedo level across the rings. Once satisfied I will put the barrel clamp on. Then I will mount the scope. on huskemaws I will level off the turret/ or turret cap. And set the flatline level. . On nightforce I have both pulled the turret cap and tried leveling off the cap. 2. Doing above but using wheeler bolt raceway level and set barrel clamp, and hang a plump bob and level the scope and set the crossairs then put the level on. 3. I have also used the nightforce picatinny rail and leveled off of it and and set the barrel level and then go through the process. This time I finished up with using the inverted T process and then set the level. I am just at a lost I have tried alot of different ways and have seen the results and corrected what I though could have went wrong. And things still look off. I have sighted in using the level and then work my way out and things seem to be fine but I can tell for sure that the crossairs are not level, and that I am only doing the same thing all the time that is helping in consistency or maybe I am wrong. I do think that the inverted t method is good but the bullet is going to go out the top of the barrel at the time, could be slightly crooked or perfect right? I am asking because one time I just did the inverted t and set the scope to track perfect all the way through to 70 moa. Then realized that my gun rest was slightly higher on one side than the other. Shot perfect all the way to 1900 but man it was crooked. My question is what is anyone doing so the gun shoulders perfect and the crossairs is perfect, and we are not just saying we hold our gun canted?