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How are you guys cleaning your barrels
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<blockquote data-quote="remingtonman_25_06" data-source="post: 81296" data-attributes="member: 1403"><p>This is a very interesting topic to me right now. I had a Winchester model 70 in 7 STW that I could just not get to shoot 3 shot groups with. So I advertised it and a fellow came out to look at it. He had a borescope with him to my amazement. So I figured he would find something in that barrel that wasn't right. And he did. The last 4 inches of the barrel, the inside was choppy. I dont really know how to explain it, but the way he explained it was Winchesters fault when they were making the barrel and pushing the steel through, the last 4 inches did not have enough lube and created a choppy effect. Anyways, he said he would only buy it to rebarrel and so he did. Which brought me to my next question for him. Before he ran off with that borescope I had him check out my 300 RUM that has not been shooting worth a crap lately. I told him that its got around 5-600 rounds through it, regularly cleaned, and its not shooting near the same size groups as it once was. So he looked down the barrel and right away he asked me if I used sweets to clean and I said yes. He said it appeared to be eating my barrel away. I broke in this barrel using the 1 shot clean method for the first 10 shots, then shoot 3 and clean for 20, then 5 and clean for 20. A total of 50 shots and a whole lot of sweets is used to do that. Now I am using a coated rod and a nice tight patch. I also use the cheap $1.50 brass brushes every time I clean with sweets which is every time I clean the barrel every 40-50 rounds. He said to basically lay off the sweets. I am very confused here. I thought a barrel needed to be clean and stay clean to shoot good and give you maximum barrel life. I have been doing this with all my rifles. Cleaning with a brass brush and sweets every 50 rounds, give or take. Should I only be using it every 200 rounds as I seen on a previous post? Could this be why my rifle was shooting 1/2 MOA for 400 rounds, then shooting 1-2MOA. It just gets me thinking is all. Cleaning to much or cleaning to little, jeez everythings so complicated. I know it says on sweets bottle to not leave in barrel for more than 15 minutes. I dont let it even sit in there for 3 minutes. Do I need to use a different solvent for the basic cleaning? I thought sweets was good to use for all around. Anybody have or had a similar problem?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="remingtonman_25_06, post: 81296, member: 1403"] This is a very interesting topic to me right now. I had a Winchester model 70 in 7 STW that I could just not get to shoot 3 shot groups with. So I advertised it and a fellow came out to look at it. He had a borescope with him to my amazement. So I figured he would find something in that barrel that wasn't right. And he did. The last 4 inches of the barrel, the inside was choppy. I dont really know how to explain it, but the way he explained it was Winchesters fault when they were making the barrel and pushing the steel through, the last 4 inches did not have enough lube and created a choppy effect. Anyways, he said he would only buy it to rebarrel and so he did. Which brought me to my next question for him. Before he ran off with that borescope I had him check out my 300 RUM that has not been shooting worth a crap lately. I told him that its got around 5-600 rounds through it, regularly cleaned, and its not shooting near the same size groups as it once was. So he looked down the barrel and right away he asked me if I used sweets to clean and I said yes. He said it appeared to be eating my barrel away. I broke in this barrel using the 1 shot clean method for the first 10 shots, then shoot 3 and clean for 20, then 5 and clean for 20. A total of 50 shots and a whole lot of sweets is used to do that. Now I am using a coated rod and a nice tight patch. I also use the cheap $1.50 brass brushes every time I clean with sweets which is every time I clean the barrel every 40-50 rounds. He said to basically lay off the sweets. I am very confused here. I thought a barrel needed to be clean and stay clean to shoot good and give you maximum barrel life. I have been doing this with all my rifles. Cleaning with a brass brush and sweets every 50 rounds, give or take. Should I only be using it every 200 rounds as I seen on a previous post? Could this be why my rifle was shooting 1/2 MOA for 400 rounds, then shooting 1-2MOA. It just gets me thinking is all. Cleaning to much or cleaning to little, jeez everythings so complicated. I know it says on sweets bottle to not leave in barrel for more than 15 minutes. I dont let it even sit in there for 3 minutes. Do I need to use a different solvent for the basic cleaning? I thought sweets was good to use for all around. Anybody have or had a similar problem? [/QUOTE]
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