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How accurate are angle cosine indicators?
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<blockquote data-quote="Darryl Cassel" data-source="post: 17425" data-attributes="member: 34"><p>Phil</p><p></p><p>In Colorado and up here in Cameron County, if you shoot from the bottom of the mountain to near the top or vice versa (depending on the length of the shot) you can get 20 and 30 degrees very often.</p><p></p><p>A 11" and larger drop can change the impact quite a lot if you are trying to get close to your spotter target on the first shot.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Brent.</p><p></p><p>You can only use and load "ONE" shot at a time at Williamsport or at any IBS or NBRSA range. There are no multiple rounds allowed in a magazine. That makes the 30 second Benchrest shooting that much tougher when these guys fire fast.</p><p>When the front rests are set right and you have the rear rest adjusted right (heavy guns), the return to point of aim is right there most of the time. Almost like a return to battery system.</p><p>Some of our top shooters are VERY good at the speed shooting.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes they get caught but, not that often.</p><p></p><p>That's another reason most of us here promote a sighter shot "FIRST" when Long-range hunting. </p><p>It eleminates most of the variables and allows for the killer shot (which is in a matter of 3 to 5 seconds) next to be on target. </p><p></p><p>When some wanting to make 1st round hits, won't shoot because of high winds, we are able to do so using the sighter first, method</p><p></p><p>It works everytime and we have not had to make changes between the sighter and killing shots very often unless the wind does a complete reversal and we can see that quite easily even in the 3 to 5 second window.</p><p></p><p>To us, it's a team sport and the spotter is the important person on the team.</p><p></p><p>For those of you wondering about the spotter shot first---A sighter shot is taken 100 yards in front or behind the animal and on the same level as it is standing. This in no way spooks the animal as it never relates that sound of impact to anything because it does not hear the muzzle blast at the far distance we are shooting. We are then able to make the scope corrections quickly and swing onto it for the killing shot. </p><p></p><p>Sometimes two spotters are needed first. These spotters can be made at a open patch of dirt, a dead stump base or even a small rock.</p><p>In steep mountain terrain, it works everytime.</p><p></p><p>Later and Happy Thanksgiving to all.</p><p>We are having PA wild turkey today. Makes the meal that much nicer.</p><p></p><p>DC <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>[ 11-27-2003: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darryl Cassel, post: 17425, member: 34"] Phil In Colorado and up here in Cameron County, if you shoot from the bottom of the mountain to near the top or vice versa (depending on the length of the shot) you can get 20 and 30 degrees very often. A 11" and larger drop can change the impact quite a lot if you are trying to get close to your spotter target on the first shot. Brent. You can only use and load "ONE" shot at a time at Williamsport or at any IBS or NBRSA range. There are no multiple rounds allowed in a magazine. That makes the 30 second Benchrest shooting that much tougher when these guys fire fast. When the front rests are set right and you have the rear rest adjusted right (heavy guns), the return to point of aim is right there most of the time. Almost like a return to battery system. Some of our top shooters are VERY good at the speed shooting. Sometimes they get caught but, not that often. That's another reason most of us here promote a sighter shot "FIRST" when Long-range hunting. It eleminates most of the variables and allows for the killer shot (which is in a matter of 3 to 5 seconds) next to be on target. When some wanting to make 1st round hits, won't shoot because of high winds, we are able to do so using the sighter first, method It works everytime and we have not had to make changes between the sighter and killing shots very often unless the wind does a complete reversal and we can see that quite easily even in the 3 to 5 second window. To us, it's a team sport and the spotter is the important person on the team. For those of you wondering about the spotter shot first---A sighter shot is taken 100 yards in front or behind the animal and on the same level as it is standing. This in no way spooks the animal as it never relates that sound of impact to anything because it does not hear the muzzle blast at the far distance we are shooting. We are then able to make the scope corrections quickly and swing onto it for the killing shot. Sometimes two spotters are needed first. These spotters can be made at a open patch of dirt, a dead stump base or even a small rock. In steep mountain terrain, it works everytime. Later and Happy Thanksgiving to all. We are having PA wild turkey today. Makes the meal that much nicer. DC [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [ 11-27-2003: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ] [/QUOTE]
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