Honest opinions please!

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by BEERWIN312, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. BEERWIN312

    BEERWIN312 Member

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    As I've stated in other threads I'm a pretty avid hunter, I have a .300 win mag and a 7mm mag that are both scopeless right now. In the past ive went with leupolds, but now that i bought vortex binos I'm sold!

    I've never messed with turrets or parallax adjustment, and it seems pretty confusing. I do learn relatively quick and am pretty well educated, so it's not like explaining lunar gravity to an infant, haha.

    My question is, do you fellas think I should stick with something with a BDC reticle and call it good? Or should i take the risk and buy one or both of the vortex
    Scopes with the parallax side turret? I'm just a little hesitant on buying them since
    My MAX elk shot would be 400yds. Sorry for the ramble guys! Thanks!
     
  2. BlackKnight755

    BlackKnight755 Well-Known Member

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    Beer...

    I had a long explanation of what parallax is and what the advantages of adjustable target turrets are typed up but I erased it all... If you have hunted for many years with a BDC and you are comfortable shooting with one of them, go forth and prosper. I looked and you are only going to shoot 400 yards and in so I think you will be good. However , I dont know what bullet you are choosing to shoot in each of your rifles ( this will make a big difference as far as the trajectory or arc of the bullet). But all in all, if you get a quality BDC scope, spend plenty of time on the range learning what each of your rifles will do with the chosen bullet... I think you will be ok. BK gun)
     

  3. azhash

    azhash New Member

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    Just curious bk what do you think the advantages of a adjustable turret scope in hunting are im wanting to start hunting with one and also do some long range target plinking is why i ask.
     
  4. marinetowgunner

    marinetowgunner Well-Known Member

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    Bdc reticles rarely fall in hole yard increments and unless it is a ffp reticle will have to be configured at multiple magnification.

    Clickable turrets are always going to be the same measurement (.25 moa, .125 moa, .1mill, etc). Good ballistic softwear will allow you to create a range card with your yardages displayed in whatever turret configuration you have or will just tell you how many clicks to make.

    I look at it this way.... In general Bdc=fast and accurate.....turrets=slower but more persice.

    The individual marksman would have to be diligant to see what system works best for them. Manufacturers level of support varies for bdc reticles. Most companies have a calculator that you can play with on their website to see how well the reticle might work for you.
     
  5. BEERWIN312

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    Yeah I've looked at both the vortex and the
    Nikon spot on calcs, I can't tell which is easier to use honestly. Haha.
     
  6. marinetowgunner

    marinetowgunner Well-Known Member

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    Look at the reticle break down itself....the yardage incraments. Is one easier to remember than the other? Does one get closer to the yardage incraments that you find acceptable?
     
  7. D.ID

    D.ID Well-Known Member

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    I personally use the nikon bdc on rifles I do not expect to shoot beyond 650 yards. It is fast, easy, and has a good online calculator. The reason I prefer nikons reticle is the reference points are plentiful having 13 points of aim on the vertical axis. The reticles that only have three or four are allot less precise. Always test your numbers on paper to confirm they hit were they "should" and then print off the reticle with the drops listed and tape it to your butstock like you would any other drop chart cheat sheet..........DO NOT try and remember them in the heat of the moment. I tend to carry my farthest reaching rifle most of the time and have to have turrets for long range precision but when I used mid range guns: That bdc reticle and cheat sheet worked really well for me. If the day could come when you wanted more range capability buy something with good repeatable turrets and learn to use them. My .02 Good luck.
     
  8. jehu

    jehu Well-Known Member

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    I have a Swarovski 4-16X50 with the 4A Reticle on a Sako Grey Wolf 7RM which is very visable even in low light and 400yds is no problem. I would be concerned that the BDC might get hard to see in low light with adark back ground. But I'm no expert.
     
  9. BEERWIN312

    BEERWIN312 Member

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    Thx Jehu but you're outta my price range by about $1000 there haha
     
  10. Jammer65

    Jammer65 Active Member

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    BDC reticles are only accurate to a specific bullet/velocity combination. There is no comparison for long range accuracy, turrets are the only way to go. I own both Leupold Mk IV 4.5-14X50 and Vortex PST 6-24x50 scopes. Both are excellent. The Vortex is a better value but quality are both about equal.
     
  11. BEERWIN312

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    I hear you jammer, but I don't plan on shooting further than 450 yards, and yeah I know about shooting bdc reticles.
     
  12. Jammer65

    Jammer65 Active Member

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    OK. I didnt see anything about 450 yd limitation. Given that caveat, a BDC can be made to work.
     
  13. denny2

    denny2 Well-Known Member

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    I have a vortex Diamondback 3.5x10x50 that has the BDC reticle. It has good glass and a great value for the $
     
  14. chucknbach

    chucknbach Well-Known Member

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    Not so, they can be customized. Use the Spot on program enter your specific info and their you go.

    The bad side is 1 cheat sheet for 1 power setting unless you get one in the first focal plane.


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