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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 576597" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Much more important then which method you use is ALOT of practical field practice. </p><p> </p><p>Get off paper as soon as you can. Go out to an area where you can shoot at targets of opportunity, best ones are small rocks in the 1/4 to 1/2 moa size. I see alot of guys going out and shooting at rocks that are 3 to 5 moa in size and are happy when they hit them every time. That, in my opinion is not good enough.</p><p> </p><p>Find small targets, as mentioned, aim small, miss small. 1/4 to 1/2 moa sizes are perfect. Set up your rifle just as you would hunting in the field. Range the rock, look up the dial up or hold over and take the shot just as you would hunting. Record your shot placement hit or miss. Do not adjust anything yet. Find several other targets at different ranges, do the same thing and record all impacts. In 10 shots you will get more information and drop chart testing then you will with 100 rounds on paper.</p><p> </p><p>If possible, take a video camera with you to video the shots. Its amazing how different what you "THINK" you see through the scope is compared to where that bullet ACTUALLY lands. This can be invaluable to tweaking your drop chart.</p><p> </p><p>When you get back home you can take your impact recorded data and confirm or tweak your drop chart to match up. I generally shoot at 500, 750 and 1000 yards. If my drops are on at these three ranges, it will be on for all ranges out to that max range.</p><p> </p><p>Again, get off paper ASAP, find a load that is consistant and shoots well, do not get a case of tinkeritis thinking there is always greener grass. Yes we want an accurate load but a 1/4 moa load will perform no better then a 1/2 moa load in the big game hunting field, save your time and barrel and put it toward practical long range field practice with whichever method you decide you like best.</p><p> </p><p>In the end it makes very little difference which method you use out to 1000 yards or so. The important part is that your well trained in the method you want to use so its second nature. In my experience, 90% of the misses at long range are because of shooter error with their drops or windage adjustments which admittedly are much harder to concentrate on when your setting up to shoot at a big game animal, thats why it needs to be second nature and that only comes from ALOT of practice but again, that does not have to mean massive amounts of bullets down range. Thats why some very intense chamberings can offer a very long big game hunting career life in spite of what many EXPERTS will claim.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 576597, member: 10"] Much more important then which method you use is ALOT of practical field practice. Get off paper as soon as you can. Go out to an area where you can shoot at targets of opportunity, best ones are small rocks in the 1/4 to 1/2 moa size. I see alot of guys going out and shooting at rocks that are 3 to 5 moa in size and are happy when they hit them every time. That, in my opinion is not good enough. Find small targets, as mentioned, aim small, miss small. 1/4 to 1/2 moa sizes are perfect. Set up your rifle just as you would hunting in the field. Range the rock, look up the dial up or hold over and take the shot just as you would hunting. Record your shot placement hit or miss. Do not adjust anything yet. Find several other targets at different ranges, do the same thing and record all impacts. In 10 shots you will get more information and drop chart testing then you will with 100 rounds on paper. If possible, take a video camera with you to video the shots. Its amazing how different what you "THINK" you see through the scope is compared to where that bullet ACTUALLY lands. This can be invaluable to tweaking your drop chart. When you get back home you can take your impact recorded data and confirm or tweak your drop chart to match up. I generally shoot at 500, 750 and 1000 yards. If my drops are on at these three ranges, it will be on for all ranges out to that max range. Again, get off paper ASAP, find a load that is consistant and shoots well, do not get a case of tinkeritis thinking there is always greener grass. Yes we want an accurate load but a 1/4 moa load will perform no better then a 1/2 moa load in the big game hunting field, save your time and barrel and put it toward practical long range field practice with whichever method you decide you like best. In the end it makes very little difference which method you use out to 1000 yards or so. The important part is that your well trained in the method you want to use so its second nature. In my experience, 90% of the misses at long range are because of shooter error with their drops or windage adjustments which admittedly are much harder to concentrate on when your setting up to shoot at a big game animal, thats why it needs to be second nature and that only comes from ALOT of practice but again, that does not have to mean massive amounts of bullets down range. Thats why some very intense chamberings can offer a very long big game hunting career life in spite of what many EXPERTS will claim. [/QUOTE]
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