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<blockquote data-quote="jmden" data-source="post: 716141" data-attributes="member: 1742"><p>Consider a 30F rated bag vs. a 0 F rated bag. Could save a pound or more (probably more) right there. I picked up a 1 lb. 8 oz. Marmot Hydrogen 850+ down fill power this year that helped cut a couple of pounds off my pack weight. I've had it down to mid 20's F weather and been fine in it. Western Mountaineering has the 10F rated Versalite that weighs only 2 lbs. This is an area that most of us can save a chunk of weight and bulk in by purchasing hi fill power sleeping bags made by the better manufacturers such as those listed above or Feathered Friends, etc.</p><p></p><p>MSR has a fairly new water filter that is much smaller and weighs quite a few oz. less than my old filter and it's designed to filter right into Platypus water bags. </p><p></p><p>You can fit the MSR MicroRocket stove, a 4 oz. cannister (1 cannister lasts days for me--but if I'm in an area with little to no water, I often won't take a stove in summer at all...if you think about it, the amount of water for a dehy meal is 2 cups typically. Which is 1lb of water. A can of Nalley thick chili weighs less than that has had 530 calories and is way cheaper than a dehy meal and often tastes as good or better. The waste from a can vs. a thick foil bag of a dehy meal is pretty comprable. Just saying that often the dehy meals may not be the way to go if water supply is at all an issue.) all in the MSR Titan TeaKettle for packing for a very low bulk, low weight cooking system. </p><p></p><p>Just little tidbits...every little bit helps.</p><p></p><p>2 or 3 layer GoreTex is often very heavy compared to some of the w/b stuff out there now like North Face HyVent of the Mountain Hardwear Dry Q (think that's it). You can often save a few oz. and bulk in your pack by picking a set of rain gear made of this stuff in the off season. Some serious hunting on the net can often yield surprisingly good prices.</p><p></p><p>Some bivvy sacs weigh as much as some lightweight shelters now. An older completely Goretex bivvy I own actually weighs more than a TarpTent Rainbow I picked up this year and, obviously, the Rainbow is many times more comfortable. At 2lbs. 3 oz., it's pretty hard to beat for some real shelter that's truly easy to use large and comfortable. </p><p></p><p>For summer hunting, I've found that the fairly cheap zip off hiking pants/shorts are pretty light, dry out fast and quite versatile vs. buying some expensive 'hunting' pant. Patagonia Capilene 2 long underwear if necessary and 5 oz. w/b rainpants will take care of most summer weather issues. Capilene is still the best wicking in tests. Some like the merino wool underwear, but you can't argue the fact that wool is hydrophilic (like cotton) to the core and soak and holds water to the core of its fiber. It just does. I find that even the 'best' merino wool gets damp and saggy (because of water weight) and stays that way for a much longer time than does Capilene. Just me. Others seem to love it. </p><p></p><p>Cheese is one of the densest calorie per weight foods there is. And, it tastes very good (to me) in the back country with some crackers (I like wheat thins as they seem to withstand packing better w/o crumbling as much as others). Swiss, pepper jack, chedder--none of it needs refrig for quite awhile. Europeans typically don't refrigerate their cheese. </p><p></p><p>In an area with snow, but you don't have a stove to save weight, but there's not enough snow to create water flow, I've put snow in gallon ziploc and put it on top of the black garbage bag I always have to line my pack with when hauling meat. Out in the sun, this will melt in a few hours with almost zero effort and then you can filter it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmden, post: 716141, member: 1742"] Consider a 30F rated bag vs. a 0 F rated bag. Could save a pound or more (probably more) right there. I picked up a 1 lb. 8 oz. Marmot Hydrogen 850+ down fill power this year that helped cut a couple of pounds off my pack weight. I've had it down to mid 20's F weather and been fine in it. Western Mountaineering has the 10F rated Versalite that weighs only 2 lbs. This is an area that most of us can save a chunk of weight and bulk in by purchasing hi fill power sleeping bags made by the better manufacturers such as those listed above or Feathered Friends, etc. MSR has a fairly new water filter that is much smaller and weighs quite a few oz. less than my old filter and it's designed to filter right into Platypus water bags. You can fit the MSR MicroRocket stove, a 4 oz. cannister (1 cannister lasts days for me--but if I'm in an area with little to no water, I often won't take a stove in summer at all...if you think about it, the amount of water for a dehy meal is 2 cups typically. Which is 1lb of water. A can of Nalley thick chili weighs less than that has had 530 calories and is way cheaper than a dehy meal and often tastes as good or better. The waste from a can vs. a thick foil bag of a dehy meal is pretty comprable. Just saying that often the dehy meals may not be the way to go if water supply is at all an issue.) all in the MSR Titan TeaKettle for packing for a very low bulk, low weight cooking system. Just little tidbits...every little bit helps. 2 or 3 layer GoreTex is often very heavy compared to some of the w/b stuff out there now like North Face HyVent of the Mountain Hardwear Dry Q (think that's it). You can often save a few oz. and bulk in your pack by picking a set of rain gear made of this stuff in the off season. Some serious hunting on the net can often yield surprisingly good prices. Some bivvy sacs weigh as much as some lightweight shelters now. An older completely Goretex bivvy I own actually weighs more than a TarpTent Rainbow I picked up this year and, obviously, the Rainbow is many times more comfortable. At 2lbs. 3 oz., it's pretty hard to beat for some real shelter that's truly easy to use large and comfortable. For summer hunting, I've found that the fairly cheap zip off hiking pants/shorts are pretty light, dry out fast and quite versatile vs. buying some expensive 'hunting' pant. Patagonia Capilene 2 long underwear if necessary and 5 oz. w/b rainpants will take care of most summer weather issues. Capilene is still the best wicking in tests. Some like the merino wool underwear, but you can't argue the fact that wool is hydrophilic (like cotton) to the core and soak and holds water to the core of its fiber. It just does. I find that even the 'best' merino wool gets damp and saggy (because of water weight) and stays that way for a much longer time than does Capilene. Just me. Others seem to love it. Cheese is one of the densest calorie per weight foods there is. And, it tastes very good (to me) in the back country with some crackers (I like wheat thins as they seem to withstand packing better w/o crumbling as much as others). Swiss, pepper jack, chedder--none of it needs refrig for quite awhile. Europeans typically don't refrigerate their cheese. In an area with snow, but you don't have a stove to save weight, but there's not enough snow to create water flow, I've put snow in gallon ziploc and put it on top of the black garbage bag I always have to line my pack with when hauling meat. Out in the sun, this will melt in a few hours with almost zero effort and then you can filter it. [/QUOTE]
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