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<blockquote data-quote="groper" data-source="post: 450956" data-attributes="member: 12550"><p>oh man, where to start...</p><p></p><p>firstly, i will say i made alot of mistakes in the beginning when it came to rifle and supporting gear selection, which cost me alot more finacially and in wasted time during the long run replacing everything.</p><p></p><p>Second, you realize after making the first mistake, that precision gear is absolutely MANDATORY for you be to be successful in this sport and save yourself from banging your head against the wall because you cant get good enough accuracy at long range.</p><p></p><p>Third, within just a couple more days reading this forum even before you start shooting, you will realize that 300yds ISNT long range at all, and therfore your initial consideration of building to this will change very quickly if it hasnt already. You barely even need to consider drops or doping wind @ 300yds, its pretty much just point and shoot if you zero @ 200.</p><p></p><p>Fourth, a 308win is a poor choice of caliber for someone looking to start LR shooting. Its not that it cant do it, its simply that there are better options. For instance, without even considering other cases, the 260rem or 7mm-08 (both use a 308win case necked down) shoot flatter and have better LR bullets with high BC available, cost less to shoot, are still common factory chamberings, and use the same actions. If you start to look at other cases, then there are a world of options and you really should search the forum to weigh up the cost vs performance arguments for what you plan on shooting. If i were to build an accurate yet low cost 1000yd target rifle or small game and varmint to 1000yds right now, i would pick a 260rem. if i wanted to take LARGE game and upto 1000yds, then you have no choice and simply must have a more powerful magnum caliber and the cost goes up.</p><p></p><p>definatly get a 20MOA base for whatever scope you decide with good quality CNC rings... i like "Evolution gun works" and "tactical precision systems" for these, both have websites you can buy direct from... and i really would buy a decent scope first up. I know they're expensive, but the good scopes hold their value so if you want to sell it, you can almost get all your money back on it. nightforce scopes for sale on here dont last more than a few days when they come up before someone snaps them up. You need to realize that this is an expensive sport, no 2 ways about it. Theres is a whole lot more expensive gear to buy besides just your rifle and scope such as reloading gear and tools, laser rangefinder etc and without all this gear, you just cant be successful at long range.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="groper, post: 450956, member: 12550"] oh man, where to start... firstly, i will say i made alot of mistakes in the beginning when it came to rifle and supporting gear selection, which cost me alot more finacially and in wasted time during the long run replacing everything. Second, you realize after making the first mistake, that precision gear is absolutely MANDATORY for you be to be successful in this sport and save yourself from banging your head against the wall because you cant get good enough accuracy at long range. Third, within just a couple more days reading this forum even before you start shooting, you will realize that 300yds ISNT long range at all, and therfore your initial consideration of building to this will change very quickly if it hasnt already. You barely even need to consider drops or doping wind @ 300yds, its pretty much just point and shoot if you zero @ 200. Fourth, a 308win is a poor choice of caliber for someone looking to start LR shooting. Its not that it cant do it, its simply that there are better options. For instance, without even considering other cases, the 260rem or 7mm-08 (both use a 308win case necked down) shoot flatter and have better LR bullets with high BC available, cost less to shoot, are still common factory chamberings, and use the same actions. If you start to look at other cases, then there are a world of options and you really should search the forum to weigh up the cost vs performance arguments for what you plan on shooting. If i were to build an accurate yet low cost 1000yd target rifle or small game and varmint to 1000yds right now, i would pick a 260rem. if i wanted to take LARGE game and upto 1000yds, then you have no choice and simply must have a more powerful magnum caliber and the cost goes up. definatly get a 20MOA base for whatever scope you decide with good quality CNC rings... i like "Evolution gun works" and "tactical precision systems" for these, both have websites you can buy direct from... and i really would buy a decent scope first up. I know they're expensive, but the good scopes hold their value so if you want to sell it, you can almost get all your money back on it. nightforce scopes for sale on here dont last more than a few days when they come up before someone snaps them up. You need to realize that this is an expensive sport, no 2 ways about it. Theres is a whole lot more expensive gear to buy besides just your rifle and scope such as reloading gear and tools, laser rangefinder etc and without all this gear, you just cant be successful at long range. [/QUOTE]
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