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<blockquote data-quote="Horse1" data-source="post: 2806722" data-attributes="member: 112817"><p>I live/hunt in open country, have my whole life (48). I've owned (and still do) flag-ship binoc-only products from Leica, Zeiss, and Swaro. I've also owned LRF/Binoc combo units and spotters from all of them. I don't have a favorite manufacturer. I do have favorite products, that are subject to change at a moment's notice if something better comes along. As to the subject of failures. An LRF/Binoc combo is unlikely to experience an optical problem, it'll be an electronics problem if there is one. Keep your Leica 1600 as backup to a worst-case scenario. I've sent both Leica and Zeiss combo units back. The Leica was off-season, under warrantee, and was gone 4-6wks and fixed on their dime no questions asked. The Zeiss happened on a hunt and Zeiss customer service overnighted me a new set @ no charge (they did take a CC #) so I was out basically 1 day of hunting with the combo and made due w/the combo and a hand-held for the rest of the day.</p><p></p><p>My current favorite combo unit (and primary glassing tool) is an 8x42 EL Range. This is the only combo that spits out generic (not specific to a load/rifle) yards or meters "true-range" and "angle-compensated range" on the same screen at the same time. Then things get simple, you look @ your chart (mine's under the ocular lens cap) account for drop via the short number and account for wind via the long number. Doesn't matter if you use the reticle, one or both dial/s. </p><p></p><p>Simple truth, I switch rifles often enough that I don't want to be pigeon-holed into my ballistics info being plugged into the optic. I want the chart in a convenient spot, somewhere on the rifle. I might hunt deer in the AM then switch to hunting pheasants mid-morning and grab a varmint rifle for the ride, then switch back to a deer rifle for the evening. I'm not diddling about with re-programming an optic through that.</p><p></p><p>I prefer the 8's to 10's (my hunting partner has 10x42 EL Range, I've used them plenty) due to less shake (easier to use hand-held) and the wider field of view.</p><p></p><p>Full disclosure I also have 15x56 SLC HD and a Leica spotter close at hand when I want a closer look.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Horse1, post: 2806722, member: 112817"] I live/hunt in open country, have my whole life (48). I've owned (and still do) flag-ship binoc-only products from Leica, Zeiss, and Swaro. I've also owned LRF/Binoc combo units and spotters from all of them. I don't have a favorite manufacturer. I do have favorite products, that are subject to change at a moment's notice if something better comes along. As to the subject of failures. An LRF/Binoc combo is unlikely to experience an optical problem, it'll be an electronics problem if there is one. Keep your Leica 1600 as backup to a worst-case scenario. I've sent both Leica and Zeiss combo units back. The Leica was off-season, under warrantee, and was gone 4-6wks and fixed on their dime no questions asked. The Zeiss happened on a hunt and Zeiss customer service overnighted me a new set @ no charge (they did take a CC #) so I was out basically 1 day of hunting with the combo and made due w/the combo and a hand-held for the rest of the day. My current favorite combo unit (and primary glassing tool) is an 8x42 EL Range. This is the only combo that spits out generic (not specific to a load/rifle) yards or meters "true-range" and "angle-compensated range" on the same screen at the same time. Then things get simple, you look @ your chart (mine's under the ocular lens cap) account for drop via the short number and account for wind via the long number. Doesn't matter if you use the reticle, one or both dial/s. Simple truth, I switch rifles often enough that I don't want to be pigeon-holed into my ballistics info being plugged into the optic. I want the chart in a convenient spot, somewhere on the rifle. I might hunt deer in the AM then switch to hunting pheasants mid-morning and grab a varmint rifle for the ride, then switch back to a deer rifle for the evening. I'm not diddling about with re-programming an optic through that. I prefer the 8's to 10's (my hunting partner has 10x42 EL Range, I've used them plenty) due to less shake (easier to use hand-held) and the wider field of view. Full disclosure I also have 15x56 SLC HD and a Leica spotter close at hand when I want a closer look. [/QUOTE]
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