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<blockquote data-quote="MudRunner2005" data-source="post: 944516" data-attributes="member: 12995"><p>Everybody is entitled to thier opinions, and it's a free country. And we all have what works best for us. For me, the STW inside of 300 is taboo, after losing half a deer to a double-shoulder shot with a 160 SGK at 100 yards. That was 12 years ago. I immediately went home, and the Sierras got turd-canned and shot at the range, and I swapped to Accubonds, and never shot another one in the shoulder...Always in the vitals. You lose 1/2 a deer to a nasty shoulder shot, you never do that again. You eliminate every possible factor from a screw-up like that. If I was just a trophy hunter it wouldn't matter...But I eat what I kill, so I want as much meat as I can retain.</p><p> </p><p>I DO believe you can be over-gunned. I mean, somebody actually made a post on here about hunting deer with a .50 BMG...Anybody remember that? How retarded can you possibly be??? You're not only making yourself look bad, but you're also hurting our cause as hunters, since a .50 BMG is NOT a hunting weapon, unless you're hunting Panzers...Not to mention the fact that if you shoot a deer with it, it's still NOT gonna stop until it hits something REALLY solid or runs out of steam... It's just plain dangerous for other people.</p><p> </p><p>This is America...And we are Americans. We can have and own whatever we want to. Hunt with whatever you want. What i'm saying is, that 1/2 of the people in the woods are well over-gunned. I have a buddy who bought a .338 Lapua for deer hunting in Alabama where you will rarely have a shot over 300 yards, unless you strategically plan your shooting area for long range, or you hunt in a hilly or rocky/mountainous area in Alabama.</p><p> </p><p>Do I own guns I can hunt with that are overkill....I sure do. Why? Beacuse this is America, and because I wanted them. Simple enough. But that doesn't mean I "NEED" them to hunt.</p><p> </p><p>A .30-06 can kill everything on the American continents, and has been doing so for over 110 years.</p><p> </p><p>All I'm saying is that just because you CAN kill something with a big-bore or a magnum, doesn't mean it's necessarily a "must have". But now-days the trend is "If big is good, huge must be better..." Dead is dead, regardless of what dispatches the animal.</p><p> </p><p>Sorry for the rant, it just irritates me when people say someone "has to have such-and-such for this-or-that". Buy what you want, buy what you are comfortable with, buy what makes you happy. But just because that is your personal choice, doesn't mean it's not considered overkill, or that the animal can't be killed with a smaller bore-diameter weapon. Remember...Game animals aren't armor-plated, and dead is dead, it can't be any more or less dead depending on what caliber bullet killed it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MudRunner2005, post: 944516, member: 12995"] Everybody is entitled to thier opinions, and it's a free country. And we all have what works best for us. For me, the STW inside of 300 is taboo, after losing half a deer to a double-shoulder shot with a 160 SGK at 100 yards. That was 12 years ago. I immediately went home, and the Sierras got turd-canned and shot at the range, and I swapped to Accubonds, and never shot another one in the shoulder...Always in the vitals. You lose 1/2 a deer to a nasty shoulder shot, you never do that again. You eliminate every possible factor from a screw-up like that. If I was just a trophy hunter it wouldn't matter...But I eat what I kill, so I want as much meat as I can retain. I DO believe you can be over-gunned. I mean, somebody actually made a post on here about hunting deer with a .50 BMG...Anybody remember that? How retarded can you possibly be??? You're not only making yourself look bad, but you're also hurting our cause as hunters, since a .50 BMG is NOT a hunting weapon, unless you're hunting Panzers...Not to mention the fact that if you shoot a deer with it, it's still NOT gonna stop until it hits something REALLY solid or runs out of steam... It's just plain dangerous for other people. This is America...And we are Americans. We can have and own whatever we want to. Hunt with whatever you want. What i'm saying is, that 1/2 of the people in the woods are well over-gunned. I have a buddy who bought a .338 Lapua for deer hunting in Alabama where you will rarely have a shot over 300 yards, unless you strategically plan your shooting area for long range, or you hunt in a hilly or rocky/mountainous area in Alabama. Do I own guns I can hunt with that are overkill....I sure do. Why? Beacuse this is America, and because I wanted them. Simple enough. But that doesn't mean I "NEED" them to hunt. A .30-06 can kill everything on the American continents, and has been doing so for over 110 years. All I'm saying is that just because you CAN kill something with a big-bore or a magnum, doesn't mean it's necessarily a "must have". But now-days the trend is "If big is good, huge must be better..." Dead is dead, regardless of what dispatches the animal. Sorry for the rant, it just irritates me when people say someone "has to have such-and-such for this-or-that". Buy what you want, buy what you are comfortable with, buy what makes you happy. But just because that is your personal choice, doesn't mean it's not considered overkill, or that the animal can't be killed with a smaller bore-diameter weapon. Remember...Game animals aren't armor-plated, and dead is dead, it can't be any more or less dead depending on what caliber bullet killed it. [/QUOTE]
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