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Help me build a 1 mile rifle...
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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Cram" data-source="post: 349339" data-attributes="member: 2215"><p>Hi Adam,</p><p></p><p> I've been following the post to see where it would go before I replied.</p><p></p><p>You stated you had a Rem 700 L/A and alot of 200g Wildcat and 180g Berger bullets to shoot. I agree with Shawn on using the 7mm Ultra Mag. You'll get your most velocity out of that case with those bullets, on a Remington action. The gun will get you out to a mile for busting rocks and hitting steel but there is alot more equipment to shooting at extreme distances like this than just the rifle. A accurate range finder. Unless you drop around $2500 for a Russian laser your next best option is a optical coincidence such as a Wild, Barr and Stroud or Zeiss. These will give you an accurate reading but it takes practice using this piece of equipment to know your getting a good reading. The other big piece of equipment is optics. You'll need a top notch scope such as Nightforce or such with higher magnification so you know your hold is true. Then your spotter nneds even better optics so that person can spot the shot that far away. A good set of Kowa, Zeiss, Leica, Swarovski spotters with ample magninfication to see detail at that distance is a must. Once you have all the components to make the shot and spot the shot you'll need someone with the capability to spot the shot. A 200g bullet at 1 mile will leave very little impact at that distance and your spotter needs to have alot of experience watching bullets fly to be able to see a hit. Now once you have all this, Mother Nature jumps in and ruins all your plans. The conditions for this shot need to be next to perfect. To much sun and you'll have alot of mirage, too dark and you won't be able to see the hit. Wind will kill your shot everytime and unless you practice from the same spot everytime and learn the wind patterns for that area and how they effect your bullet flight a 1st shot hit depending on your target size is highly unlikely. </p><p></p><p>Experience, the proper equipment, conditions and a ton of practice is the key to the extremely long shot. I've been long range shooting and hunting for 20 years now and I've made several 1 mile plus shots on rocks and a woodchuck at 2017 yards. But I've been trying for a 1 mile kill on deer now for close to 10 years and have never had the opportunity to even fire a shot at a deer that far. Some day I may and hopefully I will be ready. My advice to you is practice out to 1000 yards, when you get consistently good at that start stretching your legs a little at a time. A 7mm at 1 mile is very possible but by jumping up to a .338 caliber (or larger) on a large case will make it more practical. You'll find in the end that it will take years and years to honestly be able to make that shot and know your going to hit it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Cram, post: 349339, member: 2215"] Hi Adam, I've been following the post to see where it would go before I replied. You stated you had a Rem 700 L/A and alot of 200g Wildcat and 180g Berger bullets to shoot. I agree with Shawn on using the 7mm Ultra Mag. You'll get your most velocity out of that case with those bullets, on a Remington action. The gun will get you out to a mile for busting rocks and hitting steel but there is alot more equipment to shooting at extreme distances like this than just the rifle. A accurate range finder. Unless you drop around $2500 for a Russian laser your next best option is a optical coincidence such as a Wild, Barr and Stroud or Zeiss. These will give you an accurate reading but it takes practice using this piece of equipment to know your getting a good reading. The other big piece of equipment is optics. You'll need a top notch scope such as Nightforce or such with higher magnification so you know your hold is true. Then your spotter nneds even better optics so that person can spot the shot that far away. A good set of Kowa, Zeiss, Leica, Swarovski spotters with ample magninfication to see detail at that distance is a must. Once you have all the components to make the shot and spot the shot you'll need someone with the capability to spot the shot. A 200g bullet at 1 mile will leave very little impact at that distance and your spotter needs to have alot of experience watching bullets fly to be able to see a hit. Now once you have all this, Mother Nature jumps in and ruins all your plans. The conditions for this shot need to be next to perfect. To much sun and you'll have alot of mirage, too dark and you won't be able to see the hit. Wind will kill your shot everytime and unless you practice from the same spot everytime and learn the wind patterns for that area and how they effect your bullet flight a 1st shot hit depending on your target size is highly unlikely. Experience, the proper equipment, conditions and a ton of practice is the key to the extremely long shot. I've been long range shooting and hunting for 20 years now and I've made several 1 mile plus shots on rocks and a woodchuck at 2017 yards. But I've been trying for a 1 mile kill on deer now for close to 10 years and have never had the opportunity to even fire a shot at a deer that far. Some day I may and hopefully I will be ready. My advice to you is practice out to 1000 yards, when you get consistently good at that start stretching your legs a little at a time. A 7mm at 1 mile is very possible but by jumping up to a .338 caliber (or larger) on a large case will make it more practical. You'll find in the end that it will take years and years to honestly be able to make that shot and know your going to hit it. [/QUOTE]
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