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<blockquote data-quote="Paladin300" data-source="post: 2126208" data-attributes="member: 115299">I understand. I wasn&#039;t suggesting you would. I don&#039;t. I was just making the observation that there could be a compromise between heavy monolithic solids and light weight bullets. Which I think was the question. Most monolithics used on dangerous game are non expanding. They are just big heavy slow deep penetrating bullets made to stop man eaters and such, ie woodleigh etc.If I am not mistaken Buffalo bore at one time manufactured 308 ammo with high BC solids for hunting that where actually designed to tumble on impact. I had a box 4 or 5 years ago but they did not shoot well in my rifle at the time. I remember the store had a display of the damage they did in ballistic jelly. It was impressive.Anyway, again I am really liking the ABLRs for hunting purposes. I have traditional shot Amaxs and eldxs in my hunting set ups. Primarily 168s and 178s in 30 cal. 308 and 300 WM but I am really pleased with the 210 ABLRs and will be shooting them this coming season.I like the solids for ELR they are great for shooting stuff a long way and shoot really well in my three ELR rigs. However, most places don&#039;t like you shooting there steal with them. They will leave a hole or a significant dent!<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🙂" title="Slightly smiling face&nbsp; &nbsp; :slight_smile:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" data-shortname=":slight_smile:" /> But, they do shoot well if loaded just off the lands much like Bergers. And you are correct most states require expandables, so someone needs to get to work designing a solid that expands reliably in a medium to heavy weight for caliber ultra high BC bullet. Wait I think cutting edge has some?<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤔" title="Thinking face&nbsp; &nbsp; :thinking:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" data-shortname=":thinking:" /> Not sure, never used them, but I think they do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Paladin300, post: 2126208, member: 115299"] I understand. I wasn’t suggesting you would. I don’t. I was just making the observation that there could be a compromise between heavy monolithic solids and light weight bullets. Which I think was the question. Most monolithics used on dangerous game are non expanding. They are just big heavy slow deep penetrating bullets made to stop man eaters and such, ie woodleigh etc. If I am not mistaken Buffalo bore at one time manufactured 308 ammo with high BC solids for hunting that where actually designed to tumble on impact. I had a box 4 or 5 years ago but they did not shoot well in my rifle at the time. I remember the store had a display of the damage they did in ballistic jelly. It was impressive. Anyway, again I am really liking the ABLRs for hunting purposes. I have traditional shot Amaxs and eldxs in my hunting set ups. Primarily 168s and 178s in 30 cal. 308 and 300 WM but I am really pleased with the 210 ABLRs and will be shooting them this coming season. I like the solids for ELR they are great for shooting stuff a long way and shoot really well in my three ELR rigs. However, most places don’t like you shooting there steal with them. They will leave a hole or a significant dent!🙂 But, they do shoot well if loaded just off the lands much like Bergers. And you are correct most states require expandables, so someone needs to get to work designing a solid that expands reliably in a medium to heavy weight for caliber ultra high BC bullet. Wait I think cutting edge has some?🤔 Not sure, never used them, but I think they do. [/QUOTE]

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