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Hawke Sidewinder Vs Vortex Viper vs Falcon Menace??
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<blockquote data-quote="SidecarFlip" data-source="post: 603517" data-attributes="member: 39764"><p>.......jumped around a bit and read a review of the Falcon on some sniper forum. Notwithstandng what I consider a horrible name for any forum.... 'Sniper', the review cited that they (Falcon) were having issues with tube/bell seperation among other issues and that the optic only has a 5 year warranty, after that' it's your's baby, with no recourse......</p><p> </p><p>5 years isn't long considering a multi-rifle owner like me might not shoot a particular rifle for an extended amount of time....</p><p> </p><p>A good deal might not be any deal at all.....</p><p> </p><p>All the other players (listed and discussed here) have unlimited, unconditional lifetime transferrable warranties, with no questions asked replacement.</p><p> </p><p>That in itself speaks volumes to me and increases the price as well. It also solidifies (at least in my view), the manufacturers commitment to the quality of their products.</p><p> </p><p>Kind of like batteries. You buy a cheaper pack and stick it in the drawer and when you need a replacement down the road, they are dead so you toss 'em and buy another pack..... Preferrably premium batteries so they are good when needed.</p><p> </p><p>I took a close look at the Hawke prior to the Vortex, all the while keeping my favorite, Leupy, on the burner as well....</p><p> </p><p>Hawke Optics is a UK company but the scopes aren't made in the UK or the USA. The USA sub is in Ft.Wayne, I suspect an office, couple buxom blondes and phones, fax and furniture and little else other than maybe a closet full of cardboard boxes stuffed with scopes (with chinese writing on the outside)....<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> sigh...</p><p> </p><p>I'm not fond of the Hawke reticule (was supposedly designed by an air rifle marksman) though Hawke does have a ballistics caculator that's downloadable from their site...which I downloaded. Problem is, you can't put in custom recipes. It's all factory ammo.</p><p> </p><p>Don't think I made a poor choice in the PST Viper but time will tell. Peering through the eyepiece, it appears very clear to me, but then, I'm not out in the woods hunched down against a piney tree for 4 hours, fingers slowly getting numb and a trophy buck comes ambling into range.... Thats what seperates the rans from the also rans and that won't be until next fall.</p><p> </p><p>Until then, I'll play with paper and maybe an ocassional woodchuck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SidecarFlip, post: 603517, member: 39764"] .......jumped around a bit and read a review of the Falcon on some sniper forum. Notwithstandng what I consider a horrible name for any forum.... 'Sniper', the review cited that they (Falcon) were having issues with tube/bell seperation among other issues and that the optic only has a 5 year warranty, after that' it's your's baby, with no recourse...... 5 years isn't long considering a multi-rifle owner like me might not shoot a particular rifle for an extended amount of time.... A good deal might not be any deal at all..... All the other players (listed and discussed here) have unlimited, unconditional lifetime transferrable warranties, with no questions asked replacement. That in itself speaks volumes to me and increases the price as well. It also solidifies (at least in my view), the manufacturers commitment to the quality of their products. Kind of like batteries. You buy a cheaper pack and stick it in the drawer and when you need a replacement down the road, they are dead so you toss 'em and buy another pack..... Preferrably premium batteries so they are good when needed. I took a close look at the Hawke prior to the Vortex, all the while keeping my favorite, Leupy, on the burner as well.... Hawke Optics is a UK company but the scopes aren't made in the UK or the USA. The USA sub is in Ft.Wayne, I suspect an office, couple buxom blondes and phones, fax and furniture and little else other than maybe a closet full of cardboard boxes stuffed with scopes (with chinese writing on the outside)....:) sigh... I'm not fond of the Hawke reticule (was supposedly designed by an air rifle marksman) though Hawke does have a ballistics caculator that's downloadable from their site...which I downloaded. Problem is, you can't put in custom recipes. It's all factory ammo. Don't think I made a poor choice in the PST Viper but time will tell. Peering through the eyepiece, it appears very clear to me, but then, I'm not out in the woods hunched down against a piney tree for 4 hours, fingers slowly getting numb and a trophy buck comes ambling into range.... Thats what seperates the rans from the also rans and that won't be until next fall. Until then, I'll play with paper and maybe an ocassional woodchuck. [/QUOTE]
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