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<blockquote data-quote="ridge rider" data-source="post: 481193" data-attributes="member: 17933"><p>Dear Scot E,</p><p> </p><p>It seems as if I have stepped on an ingrown toe nail here judging by your misaligned comments.</p><p> </p><p>Please allow me to respond and clear your mind on a few issues here.</p><p> </p><p>1. You obviously have not paid attention to opening lines where our forum friend asked this....and by the way I have underlined the pertinent bits just for you.</p><p> </p><p><em>I'm just wondering if anyone has bought a Howa in the <strong>last year</strong>?</em></p><p><em>If so <strong>are you happy</strong> with it, does it shoot, <strong>do you have any issues</strong> at all with it?</em></p><p>We are supposed to discuss <strong>Howas purchased in the last year and any issues with them</strong>, not several years ago like you did.</p><p>I thought I honestly addressed his question and gave him an honest comment. You will see this and more should you wish to continue reading as all shall be revealed, even to someone who is as "one eyed" as you.</p><p> </p><p>2. Your opening comment states....</p><p> </p><p><em>"Well, you may need to find some new mates! "</em></p><p> </p><p>Did my comments disassociate you from me. Well I never considered you as a mate and nor would I give you that privelege of being one for that matter. Nothing lost there in my opinion.</p><p> </p><p>3. Howa have NEVER been top of the list for most accurate factory rifle out of the box. Was this in your dreams?</p><p> </p><p>4. I DO KNOW the Weatherby Vanguards are Howa actions and barrels. However what you possibly fail to realise is that Weatherby Inc. has a high standard of quality acceptance and there is no way these crappy ones would get past the Weatherby gate post.....right? Unlike you I can afford the more expensive Weatherby MK5 Accumarks and know what high quality Weatherby rifles are about. I don't buy bargain basement rifles unlike you.</p><p> </p><p>5. I never made mention of <em>..."weight negatively affect(ing) accuracy"</em></p><p>You made that assumption/assertion.</p><p>I implied that they are heavy to carry about.</p><p>So kindly get your hand off your piece of manhood and get your facts right first before you open up on me with all guns blazing.</p><p> </p><p>6. For your information here are some facts you should learn about or need to know.....</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">The Howas of yesteryear were a very good rifle and were very well put together and Howa lived upon that reputation for quite a long time, however of late there have been too many issues with their drop in quality and workmanship which has resulted in some pretty poorly manufactured rifles. Some have had actions even blow up with magnum cartridges.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">A hunting friend of mine just recently bought a 338 WinMag and could not get this thing to shoot no matter what factory ammo he tried. It produced groups of 4" and worse.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">His brother "TopShot" a member on this forum even handloaded ammunition with various powders and projectile combinations and seating depths, yet despite all that he could not get that mean son of a bitch rifle to shoot at all.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Upon careful examination of the machining of the receiver and barrel with the naked eye and with a bore scope it was revealed how badly manufactured this rifle really was.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">So much for quality and workmanship from modern day Howa.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">If this is a truly typical example of how "well" the modern age Howa is made then heaven help you when you spend your hard earned cash on one of these pieces of **** and they are just that….they are **** I will repeat once again.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Howas never were at the top of the list as being the most accurate out of the box factory rifle. I do not know where you got this information from.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">You may possibly have been spun a load of ******** when you purchased your rifle some time ago by some slick salesman who told you this and it appears you still believe that bit of crap to this day.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Here is the real truth on this topic and I hope you might learn something from all this.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">The 40 X's by Remington are the only tight tolerance factory sold rifles without going to a custom job that are and always were the most accurate out of the box factory rifles bar none.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Certainly there are others that have good tolerances and guarantee good accuracy, but do not have the reputation that the 40 X's are noted for.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">As a matter of fact the 40 X's actually hold a many bench rest shoots for a factory gun and they are as close to a custom as you can get even if you built them yourself.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">For a factory rifle the Tikka and Sako have an extremely good reputation for accuracy and performance. Both are made by the same people in the same factory.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">The Sako's don't leave the factory unless they can fire less than 1/2" at 100 yards and Tikka firing less than 1" @ 100 yards.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">All rifles produced are test fired before leaving the factory and there are NO rejects.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Each barrel is examined by eye for 5 minutes by expert craftsmen.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Sako bolts will fit in any Sako of same model with no headspace issues.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">These are really well put together and are very nice rifles.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">For a budget-priced rifle, the Savage is probably the most accurate factory-production rifle out there today and not your Howa thank you. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I've had witnessed uniformly excellent results with them at F Class shoots out to 1000 yards.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I would suggest Savage, triple pillar accu-stock with a 3 lbs trigger if long shots are what you are considering.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">However, if you want to go up-market a bit (not too much), try the Tikka range.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">They're made by Sako, and are considered to be the best value-for-money rifle on the market today - and their accuracy is equal to the Savage, whilst their workmanship and quality is just that bit better.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">In the end it's your money you are spending…..would hate to see it go to waste on a piece of ****.</span></span></p><p> </p><p>Hope this clears the air.</p><p> </p><p>Have a nice day</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ridge rider, post: 481193, member: 17933"] Dear Scot E, It seems as if I have stepped on an ingrown toe nail here judging by your misaligned comments. Please allow me to respond and clear your mind on a few issues here. 1. You obviously have not paid attention to opening lines where our forum friend asked this....and by the way I have underlined the pertinent bits just for you. [I]I'm just wondering if anyone has bought a Howa in the [B]last year[/B]?[/I] [I]If so [B]are you happy[/B] with it, does it shoot, [B]do you have any issues[/B] at all with it?[/I] We are supposed to discuss [B]Howas purchased in the last year and any issues with them[/B], not several years ago like you did. I thought I honestly addressed his question and gave him an honest comment. You will see this and more should you wish to continue reading as all shall be revealed, even to someone who is as "one eyed" as you. 2. Your opening comment states.... [I]"Well, you may need to find some new mates! "[/I] Did my comments disassociate you from me. Well I never considered you as a mate and nor would I give you that privelege of being one for that matter. Nothing lost there in my opinion. 3. Howa have NEVER been top of the list for most accurate factory rifle out of the box. Was this in your dreams? 4. I DO KNOW the Weatherby Vanguards are Howa actions and barrels. However what you possibly fail to realise is that Weatherby Inc. has a high standard of quality acceptance and there is no way these crappy ones would get past the Weatherby gate post.....right? Unlike you I can afford the more expensive Weatherby MK5 Accumarks and know what high quality Weatherby rifles are about. I don't buy bargain basement rifles unlike you. 5. I never made mention of [I]..."weight negatively affect(ing) accuracy"[/I] You made that assumption/assertion. I implied that they are heavy to carry about. So kindly get your hand off your piece of manhood and get your facts right first before you open up on me with all guns blazing. 6. For your information here are some facts you should learn about or need to know..... [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]The Howas of yesteryear were a very good rifle and were very well put together and Howa lived upon that reputation for quite a long time, however of late there have been too many issues with their drop in quality and workmanship which has resulted in some pretty poorly manufactured rifles. Some have had actions even blow up with magnum cartridges.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]A hunting friend of mine just recently bought a 338 WinMag and could not get this thing to shoot no matter what factory ammo he tried. It produced groups of 4” and worse.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]His brother “TopShot” a member on this forum even handloaded ammunition with various powders and projectile combinations and seating depths, yet despite all that he could not get that mean son of a bitch rifle to shoot at all.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Upon careful examination of the machining of the receiver and barrel with the naked eye and with a bore scope it was revealed how badly manufactured this rifle really was.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]So much for quality and workmanship from modern day Howa.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]If this is a truly typical example of how “well” the modern age Howa is made then heaven help you when you spend your hard earned cash on one of these pieces of **** and they are just that….they are **** I will repeat once again.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Howas never were at the top of the list as being the most accurate out of the box factory rifle. I do not know where you got this information from.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]You may possibly have been spun a load of ******** when you purchased your rifle some time ago by some slick salesman who told you this and it appears you still believe that bit of crap to this day.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Here is the real truth on this topic and I hope you might learn something from all this.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]The 40 X's by Remington are the only tight tolerance factory sold rifles without going to a custom job that are and always were the most accurate out of the box factory rifles bar none.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Certainly there are others that have good tolerances and guarantee good accuracy, but do not have the reputation that the 40 X's are noted for.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]As a matter of fact the 40 X's actually hold a many bench rest shoots for a factory gun and they are as close to a custom as you can get even if you built them yourself.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]For a factory rifle the Tikka and Sako have an extremely good reputation for accuracy and performance. Both are made by the same people in the same factory.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]The Sako's don't leave the factory unless they can fire less than 1/2" at 100 yards and Tikka firing less than 1" @ 100 yards.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]All rifles produced are test fired before leaving the factory and there are NO rejects.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Each barrel is examined by eye for 5 minutes by expert craftsmen.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Sako bolts will fit in any Sako of same model with no headspace issues.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]These are really well put together and are very nice rifles.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]For a budget-priced rifle, the Savage is probably the most accurate factory-production rifle out there today and not your Howa thank you. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]I've had witnessed uniformly excellent results with them at F Class shoots out to 1000 yards.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]I would suggest Savage, triple pillar accu-stock with a 3 lbs trigger if long shots are what you are considering.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]However, if you want to go up-market a bit (not too much), try the Tikka range.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]They're made by Sako, and are considered to be the best value-for-money rifle on the market today - and their accuracy is equal to the Savage, whilst their workmanship and quality is just that bit better.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]In the end it’s your money you are spending…..would hate to see it go to waste on a piece of ****.[/SIZE][/FONT] Hope this clears the air. Have a nice day [/QUOTE]
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