H4831sc vs. Retumbo?

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  1. RangerBrad

    RangerBrad Well-Known Member

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    I am shooting the Berger 115gr VLD in 25-06 caliber. I have read on a few sites that the 25-06 is easy to load for and will take many diffrent powders well. I also found many to say that the H4831sc was a great powder for the 25-06 however many felt it worked best pushing bullets under 100gr and that Retumbo was a better choice for the heavier bullets of 100gr and larger.
    What say yal? Thank's, Brad
     
  2. Aldon

    Aldon Well-Known Member

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    I no longer have a 25-06 but I had good luck with 4831 sc and RL17. RL 17 was the better of the two but temperature sensitive so I went back to 4831sc. It was very good for me. My node was at 50 gr 4831sc using Fed 210 primers and Hornady Brass. I did not have Chrony at the time. I never tried Retumbo that I recall.

    Here is a thread I started back when I had the rig....

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f28/25-06-loads-needed-115gr-berger-hunting-vld-50585/
     

  3. Korhil78

    Korhil78 Well-Known Member

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    I tried retumbo out with the 115 gr bergers out of my 06 but 4831sc worked better for me. I am loading 54 gr of 4831sc currently and don't think that I will change it because it is very accurate out of my gun.
     
  4. TRG300WM

    TRG300WM Well-Known Member

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    RL17 & 100 gr Nosler BTs are an awesome combo in my 257 WBY Mag its AV is 3749 and an inch group at 100 yards.
     
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    436 Well-Known Member

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    H-4831 or H-4831SC is pretty hard to beat, It's always been one of my go to powder over the years in 25 cal.
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  6. freebird63

    freebird63 Well-Known Member

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    Have you given any thought to trying H1000?? In my 280AI with 140gr bullets it really likes H4831SC and if I move up to 162gr bullets it loves H1000. I think on hodgdons burn rate scale H1000 is after H4831. How long is the barrel?
     
  7. longrangefreek

    longrangefreek Well-Known Member

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    H4831sc was the go to powder for me when I shot my 25/06. great accuracy!
     
  8. Centxshooter

    Centxshooter Well-Known Member

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    H4831SC used in 257Wby with 117gr sierras and in the 300RUM with 190gr SPBT work great! :)
     
  9. RangerBrad

    RangerBrad Well-Known Member

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    Aldon, Even on your thread I noticed somebody saying the same of retumbo as I've seen elsewhere. I've bee using the H4831sc at 54gr and it is very accurate (about .4 moa) however I am certainly not seeing the velocities others are claiming. I have a 24" barrel and have chrono'd alot of these rounds and find 3035fps to be about average. I wonder why the big velocity diffrence between what I'm seeing and what others are claiming. Brad
     
  10. Aldon

    Aldon Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea why your velocities are what they are. But .4 is great. I used to chase velocity but I now tend to value the consistently small group more so.
     
  11. backwoods83

    backwoods83 Well-Known Member

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    Brad H4831sc is probably the absolute best all around, but you may not give up hardly any accuracy or ES with 57-59grns of H1000 with Fed210Ms. Also about the same charge of RE25 will do the same but I don't care for the sensativity, but both of these powders should give you about 100-125fps gain.
     
  12. RangerBrad

    RangerBrad Well-Known Member

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    I had also heard some on H1000 but not to the degree of Retumbo. Brad