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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 330703" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>Skip,</p><p> </p><p>I dont really want to get into a long drawn out debate about the NF vs the Huskemaw, but the NF is in a diiferent class. The only comparrison that Ernie made between the two was that the optics @ 20x were on par. My opinion is that the Huskemaw scope is probably a fine peice of glass. It fills a somewhat limited niche very nicely. Let's consider why I said the NF is hands down better. How would you compare the internal works of the Huskemaw to the NF in material quality, ruggedness, reliability, durability, etc.? Are the parts machined to the same or higher specs? Are Huskemaw scopes put through the same extreme tests that NF scopes are? How strong is the Huskemaw tube compared to the NF tube? If both scopes were placed on a 50 BMG, which do you think would loose its zero first? For lifetime durability, precision, repeatability and reliability form one rugged hunting season to another, my $$$ is on the NF. Agian, that's not to say that the Huskemaw is not a fine scope. It fits the bill for probably most hunters. Some other features of the NF is greater adjustment range, a large selection of useful and functional reticles which are illumintated which makes the NF a much more flexible tool. NF scopes are combat proven and the preference of many (possibly most) BR shooters. They have more BR wins than any other scope. If you really want to do a comprhensive comaprison, I think you should actually do it. Take a NF NXS and a Huskemaw and pound some 16 penny nails through some 2x's. Put them on a heavy cal rifle and fire until one looses its zero, then keep firng the winner until it gives out and see what the difference is. Throw them into a mud hole and an icey stream, shoot them in a dust storm. Thease are extreme conditions and not all hunters need a scope that will survive them, but I think this is part of what separates the two. So I say, if you want to make the comparison, step up to the plate and do it. Once again, your scope is no doubt a fine peice of glass... but as good as a NF? I doubt it.</p><p> </p><p>You no doubt make some fine rifles as well. But I dont see were your rifles could be considered better than many of the customs that are put out by top smiths which are built for less than yours. Their rifles are as good as can be made. Yours are probably right there with them... but theirs dont have the same price tag. The "off the shelf" stocks you mention are top quality solid platforms for the most part, depending on the customers preference. HS, McMillan, B&C, Manners, Joel Russo, etc..... all top quality. It's great that you design your own stocks but are they any better the the ones mentioned?</p><p> </p><p>EDIT: I hunted with a 7mmRM for many years, maybe even before you did. It is a fine cartridge and I took a lot of game with it, all one shot kills. But when my barrel burned out, I went looking for a 30 cal replacement. All esle being equal, the 30 cal bullet is a more effective killer because it makes a bigger hole and carries more power. The difference isn't huge, but there is a difference. Just saying you guys might want to consider other cal options to broaden your market interest.</p><p> </p><p>Your new RF sounds awesome. If it's anything close to what you say it is, it will truely be head and shoulders above the rest. I do hope you consider of providing an MOA option. I would love that and be one of your first customers as well as a marketing asset, because I'll be showing friends. I wont be getting one that is locked into a yardage only system that gives me no flexability for load development and change, not to mention that as barrels wear, their ballistics change. There are new bullets and powders coming out all the time and I like to be able to take advantage of any new improvements in ballistics without having to order new turrets each time... especially for multiple rifles.</p><p> </p><p>Regards,</p><p> </p><p>Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 330703, member: 11717"] Skip, I dont really want to get into a long drawn out debate about the NF vs the Huskemaw, but the NF is in a diiferent class. The only comparrison that Ernie made between the two was that the optics @ 20x were on par. My opinion is that the Huskemaw scope is probably a fine peice of glass. It fills a somewhat limited niche very nicely. Let's consider why I said the NF is hands down better. How would you compare the internal works of the Huskemaw to the NF in material quality, ruggedness, reliability, durability, etc.? Are the parts machined to the same or higher specs? Are Huskemaw scopes put through the same extreme tests that NF scopes are? How strong is the Huskemaw tube compared to the NF tube? If both scopes were placed on a 50 BMG, which do you think would loose its zero first? For lifetime durability, precision, repeatability and reliability form one rugged hunting season to another, my $$$ is on the NF. Agian, that's not to say that the Huskemaw is not a fine scope. It fits the bill for probably most hunters. Some other features of the NF is greater adjustment range, a large selection of useful and functional reticles which are illumintated which makes the NF a much more flexible tool. NF scopes are combat proven and the preference of many (possibly most) BR shooters. They have more BR wins than any other scope. If you really want to do a comprhensive comaprison, I think you should actually do it. Take a NF NXS and a Huskemaw and pound some 16 penny nails through some 2x's. Put them on a heavy cal rifle and fire until one looses its zero, then keep firng the winner until it gives out and see what the difference is. Throw them into a mud hole and an icey stream, shoot them in a dust storm. Thease are extreme conditions and not all hunters need a scope that will survive them, but I think this is part of what separates the two. So I say, if you want to make the comparison, step up to the plate and do it. Once again, your scope is no doubt a fine peice of glass... but as good as a NF? I doubt it. You no doubt make some fine rifles as well. But I dont see were your rifles could be considered better than many of the customs that are put out by top smiths which are built for less than yours. Their rifles are as good as can be made. Yours are probably right there with them... but theirs dont have the same price tag. The "off the shelf" stocks you mention are top quality solid platforms for the most part, depending on the customers preference. HS, McMillan, B&C, Manners, Joel Russo, etc..... all top quality. It's great that you design your own stocks but are they any better the the ones mentioned? EDIT: I hunted with a 7mmRM for many years, maybe even before you did. It is a fine cartridge and I took a lot of game with it, all one shot kills. But when my barrel burned out, I went looking for a 30 cal replacement. All esle being equal, the 30 cal bullet is a more effective killer because it makes a bigger hole and carries more power. The difference isn't huge, but there is a difference. Just saying you guys might want to consider other cal options to broaden your market interest. Your new RF sounds awesome. If it's anything close to what you say it is, it will truely be head and shoulders above the rest. I do hope you consider of providing an MOA option. I would love that and be one of your first customers as well as a marketing asset, because I'll be showing friends. I wont be getting one that is locked into a yardage only system that gives me no flexability for load development and change, not to mention that as barrels wear, their ballistics change. There are new bullets and powders coming out all the time and I like to be able to take advantage of any new improvements in ballistics without having to order new turrets each time... especially for multiple rifles. Regards, Mark [/QUOTE]
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