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<blockquote data-quote="Brent" data-source="post: 2614" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>Texas,</p><p>I never got your email? It is not the best time of the year to loose work in this line, a couple months ago would have been much better. I can't say there's much but I'll do fine, it just may take some time. Someone will get that freight and work will come.</p><p></p><p>The bear was a no show the night before last. Last night he milled around a couple hundred yards behind where I was going to camp for about two hours and never going to the kill in the light. I decided to camp up about 1100 feet on the mountain to see where he might be hanging around before another attempt. I'll stay off aways, watch and then see how to best persue this one. I'm going back again tonightfor some vidios of him and to keep tabs on him and a few bulls I've been seeing too. </p><p></p><p>I never know how long he's going to stick around so the 20 minutes it takes me to get to where he might be is really a LONG time for a bear that's always moving around. If he goes to the kill, I have a much better opportunity to get there and set up, and that is if the wind is right too. </p><p></p><p>Had I known he would have been around so long the last time and went after him, he would have walked right to the spot I was going to shoot him from. after that he moved about 100yds to the right of there and bathed in a pool for almost 40 minutes. I was by myself by then and would have just taken the 416wby loaded with 400XLC's for the getting in close and personal. </p><p></p><p>I may use the 416 for the long range stuff too just because it would work much better at stopping him quicker. It is very destuctive on whatever it touches near or far. I have a very good drop chart and lots of experience with it and the load also. </p><p></p><p>I checked out the 300WM and the factory load to 500yds and it matched the Oehler programs drop chart perfectly, WOW! The Horus Vision handheld program had to be modified to a .590 BC from .520 to match the Oehlers chart and actual drop though. I have not cronied the load or checked the actual BC though, Just matched up the chart to the actual drop I'm getting. I did find that if velocity was moved up from 3100 to 3150 the BC could be moved back down to .520 on the handheld and the Oehler chart again matched.</p><p></p><p>A 180gr Scirocco removed from the sand after penitrating a 12" burnt stump fired at 100 yards looked great and weighed 153grs at 85% retention. It would be much higher at just 300 yards, and beyond that just right I think.</p><p></p><p>8 moa to zero at 500yds is a far cry from the 13.5 needed with the 416 and the 308win though. Groups were within a coffie can lid at 500 just resting over a rifle in a padded case so it is capable with the factory stuff for sure. A heavy factory trigger is b*tch with this thing. </p><p></p><p>Wish you all could be here, I'm having a great time, even though, well the job thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brent, post: 2614, member: 99"] Texas, I never got your email? It is not the best time of the year to loose work in this line, a couple months ago would have been much better. I can't say there's much but I'll do fine, it just may take some time. Someone will get that freight and work will come. The bear was a no show the night before last. Last night he milled around a couple hundred yards behind where I was going to camp for about two hours and never going to the kill in the light. I decided to camp up about 1100 feet on the mountain to see where he might be hanging around before another attempt. I'll stay off aways, watch and then see how to best persue this one. I'm going back again tonightfor some vidios of him and to keep tabs on him and a few bulls I've been seeing too. I never know how long he's going to stick around so the 20 minutes it takes me to get to where he might be is really a LONG time for a bear that's always moving around. If he goes to the kill, I have a much better opportunity to get there and set up, and that is if the wind is right too. Had I known he would have been around so long the last time and went after him, he would have walked right to the spot I was going to shoot him from. after that he moved about 100yds to the right of there and bathed in a pool for almost 40 minutes. I was by myself by then and would have just taken the 416wby loaded with 400XLC's for the getting in close and personal. I may use the 416 for the long range stuff too just because it would work much better at stopping him quicker. It is very destuctive on whatever it touches near or far. I have a very good drop chart and lots of experience with it and the load also. I checked out the 300WM and the factory load to 500yds and it matched the Oehler programs drop chart perfectly, WOW! The Horus Vision handheld program had to be modified to a .590 BC from .520 to match the Oehlers chart and actual drop though. I have not cronied the load or checked the actual BC though, Just matched up the chart to the actual drop I'm getting. I did find that if velocity was moved up from 3100 to 3150 the BC could be moved back down to .520 on the handheld and the Oehler chart again matched. A 180gr Scirocco removed from the sand after penitrating a 12" burnt stump fired at 100 yards looked great and weighed 153grs at 85% retention. It would be much higher at just 300 yards, and beyond that just right I think. 8 moa to zero at 500yds is a far cry from the 13.5 needed with the 416 and the 308win though. Groups were within a coffie can lid at 500 just resting over a rifle in a padded case so it is capable with the factory stuff for sure. A heavy factory trigger is b*tch with this thing. Wish you all could be here, I'm having a great time, even though, well the job thing. [/QUOTE]
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