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<blockquote data-quote="toddc" data-source="post: 734683" data-attributes="member: 4566"><p>Did you just use the "N" word......as in Need? LOL. I NEED all sortsa guns just ask my wife. I currently need 26,453,435,353,451,856 give or take 2.(Worried about concussion with the 30mm so I may not need it MORE than my retinas). </p><p>Yes you NEED way more than an 06 for LR. Yeah you can kill stuff a fair peice with an 06 but a 338 is in a different ballpark. TOF for any round is over .5 at 500 m/l. This means you NEED a 338. Horsepower is nice when you have the wrong wind or animal moves or you pull the shot. For whatever reason you need it the 338 at 2850 and a smk/berger givesw over 2500fpe with a lot larger frontal area and double the weight of a typical 06.A 338 at 1k=30-06 at less than 100 yds even if you totally discount SD and frontal area. Even a 200 gr 06 gives 50% weight to the bigboy. The 338 needs about 4.5 moa of wind at 10 mph the 06 needs 9.7. A 168 bt has 542 FPE about 1/5 of a 338.</p><p>When shooting past 4-500 hit them with all the horspower you can and hope you dont need it. I used to kill a lot of depredation deer with a 308 cuz it was cheaper. Then I figured in time checking hits,gas etc and built a 338 that I can kill 20+ from one spot and NEVER have to chase one. Much easier and lower cost for me since I may have to shoot quite a few.</p><p>Ask any drag racer and he will tell you this: There is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT.</p><p>The 338s with high BC and thin jackets have changed a lot of what LR is. A 1000 yds used to be a long shot even with a 300 ultra. The big 300 gr 338s change all that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toddc, post: 734683, member: 4566"] Did you just use the "N" word......as in Need? LOL. I NEED all sortsa guns just ask my wife. I currently need 26,453,435,353,451,856 give or take 2.(Worried about concussion with the 30mm so I may not need it MORE than my retinas). Yes you NEED way more than an 06 for LR. Yeah you can kill stuff a fair peice with an 06 but a 338 is in a different ballpark. TOF for any round is over .5 at 500 m/l. This means you NEED a 338. Horsepower is nice when you have the wrong wind or animal moves or you pull the shot. For whatever reason you need it the 338 at 2850 and a smk/berger givesw over 2500fpe with a lot larger frontal area and double the weight of a typical 06.A 338 at 1k=30-06 at less than 100 yds even if you totally discount SD and frontal area. Even a 200 gr 06 gives 50% weight to the bigboy. The 338 needs about 4.5 moa of wind at 10 mph the 06 needs 9.7. A 168 bt has 542 FPE about 1/5 of a 338. When shooting past 4-500 hit them with all the horspower you can and hope you dont need it. I used to kill a lot of depredation deer with a 308 cuz it was cheaper. Then I figured in time checking hits,gas etc and built a 338 that I can kill 20+ from one spot and NEVER have to chase one. Much easier and lower cost for me since I may have to shoot quite a few. Ask any drag racer and he will tell you this: There is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT. The 338s with high BC and thin jackets have changed a lot of what LR is. A 1000 yds used to be a long shot even with a 300 ultra. The big 300 gr 338s change all that. [/QUOTE]
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