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<blockquote data-quote="drbill" data-source="post: 683499" data-attributes="member: 11198"><p>Its sometimes good to hire a guide. Where I elk hunt we go with a retired guide that knows elk. He doesn't shoot but he can guide well and lets us know where all the elk are and he says "have at it" for free. Now this guide laughs at us cause there are some elk consistantly on a bare west/south ridge that they can escape quickly to the north cold tree face. We watch them from camp as all my buddies have a good time on there vacation and know they are "unreachable" Oh by the way I have shot several nice bulls and cows here at this place so it good to get in with guide sometimes. But these bulls up there KNOW they are safe and they are BIG. You can't crawl up on them, too steep to stalk around and not spook them out and its hard to see their whole terrain. You can go to another ridge at same eye level but then you can't see the whole west ridge then you could miss out. Not as good shooting spot there. But in this one place, this one place, this one place you can see the whole deal. </p><p>You have to hike up to this one place and it takes a bit but that is no problem for a man. At this one place its about consistently 1850 yards to where these giants come out. A valley is between "my" ridge and "their" ridge. I believe the elevation is like 7000 to 9000 with 30 degrees. Im not sure on all this but can't quite remember, when I go again to this spot I will figure it out. I watched one group go up there and spook these elk out and ruin it that year. They figured out that you can't get them on foot. You have to shoot them. So maybe in your hunting you will eventually learn to shoot ELR, so if a guide shows you some elk that are "untouchable" you can now reach out and "touch" them. That maybe a long ways down the road for you if that interests you but with good help and guidance im sure you can do it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drbill, post: 683499, member: 11198"] Its sometimes good to hire a guide. Where I elk hunt we go with a retired guide that knows elk. He doesn't shoot but he can guide well and lets us know where all the elk are and he says "have at it" for free. Now this guide laughs at us cause there are some elk consistantly on a bare west/south ridge that they can escape quickly to the north cold tree face. We watch them from camp as all my buddies have a good time on there vacation and know they are "unreachable" Oh by the way I have shot several nice bulls and cows here at this place so it good to get in with guide sometimes. But these bulls up there KNOW they are safe and they are BIG. You can't crawl up on them, too steep to stalk around and not spook them out and its hard to see their whole terrain. You can go to another ridge at same eye level but then you can't see the whole west ridge then you could miss out. Not as good shooting spot there. But in this one place, this one place, this one place you can see the whole deal. You have to hike up to this one place and it takes a bit but that is no problem for a man. At this one place its about consistently 1850 yards to where these giants come out. A valley is between "my" ridge and "their" ridge. I believe the elevation is like 7000 to 9000 with 30 degrees. Im not sure on all this but can't quite remember, when I go again to this spot I will figure it out. I watched one group go up there and spook these elk out and ruin it that year. They figured out that you can't get them on foot. You have to shoot them. So maybe in your hunting you will eventually learn to shoot ELR, so if a guide shows you some elk that are "untouchable" you can now reach out and "touch" them. That maybe a long ways down the road for you if that interests you but with good help and guidance im sure you can do it. [/QUOTE]
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