The only way i've been able to get a scope level with standard rings is luck . I just erased all of my post out of frustration -if someone invented something that truly worked they could sell it to me for sure. I'm about a half step away from tightening the scope down to near torgue specs and putting a pipe wrench on it ----seriously ! Just kind of aggitated with this process -so don't bother telling me how to tighten the right side front screw -then the left side rear screw etc. that does not work no matter how you do it.