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<blockquote data-quote="Old teacher" data-source="post: 856393" data-attributes="member: 48420"><p>I don't think we are in disagreement too much. We both agree that trial and error is a must with each individual rifle to match your case with your chamber. But I still do not understand why you FL size and the neck size afterwards. </p><p>Then FL sizing completes negates any advantage you gain with neck sizing. All you do is create a case that matches your die makers specs, which may not match your chamber specs. No die maker, regardless of brand, quality, or specialty, makes a die that creates a case that fits each and every rifle. The only way to do that is fireform, neck size, and reload. End of story, unless your bolt will not close comfortably. I do not know if Sako still does this, but 40 years ago, they used a chamber reamer three times. They cut a chamber, sharpened the reamer, cut another chamber, sharpened the reamer, and cut a third chamber and then threw the reamer away. Since the reamer had been sharpened twice, all three chambers had different specs. I have three 300 Win mags. A Remington Sendero, a Tikka, and an Encore. A fireformed case from the Sendero will not chamber in either of the other rifles. Cases FL sized will. Therefore, using a FL sized case in my Sendero is like having a marble rolling around in a pop bottle hoping to find its way out of the neck. What makes matters worse is that a FL sized case head spaces on the belt. A fireformed case headspaces on the belt AND the shoulder, and assuming that whatever rifle you are working with was reamed properly so the center line of the case and bullet is on the same plane as the center line of the barrel, the cartridge is locked in for its best possible accuracy. A good rule of thumb for reloading any case is to make as few changes to a fired case as is possible and still come up with a reloaded case that chamber well in the gun. Why FL size when neck sizing creates an absolute minimum of stress on the case, therefore making the case live longer, fit the rifle better, and be more accurate? This is a whole different topic, but another habit a lot of shooters I see at the range have is primer pocket reaming. They ream the primer pocket before each reloading and then wonder why their brass only lasts three or four loads before primers start falling out and they have an action full of powder. The new chemical brass cleaners are a Godsend for us reloaders because they completely clean primer pockets making a reamer an antique. If there was ever a process that the KISS rule applied to, it is cartridge reloading. But, as I have said many times on the forum, if it works for you, keep doing it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Old teacher, post: 856393, member: 48420"] I don't think we are in disagreement too much. We both agree that trial and error is a must with each individual rifle to match your case with your chamber. But I still do not understand why you FL size and the neck size afterwards. Then FL sizing completes negates any advantage you gain with neck sizing. All you do is create a case that matches your die makers specs, which may not match your chamber specs. No die maker, regardless of brand, quality, or specialty, makes a die that creates a case that fits each and every rifle. The only way to do that is fireform, neck size, and reload. End of story, unless your bolt will not close comfortably. I do not know if Sako still does this, but 40 years ago, they used a chamber reamer three times. They cut a chamber, sharpened the reamer, cut another chamber, sharpened the reamer, and cut a third chamber and then threw the reamer away. Since the reamer had been sharpened twice, all three chambers had different specs. I have three 300 Win mags. A Remington Sendero, a Tikka, and an Encore. A fireformed case from the Sendero will not chamber in either of the other rifles. Cases FL sized will. Therefore, using a FL sized case in my Sendero is like having a marble rolling around in a pop bottle hoping to find its way out of the neck. What makes matters worse is that a FL sized case head spaces on the belt. A fireformed case headspaces on the belt AND the shoulder, and assuming that whatever rifle you are working with was reamed properly so the center line of the case and bullet is on the same plane as the center line of the barrel, the cartridge is locked in for its best possible accuracy. A good rule of thumb for reloading any case is to make as few changes to a fired case as is possible and still come up with a reloaded case that chamber well in the gun. Why FL size when neck sizing creates an absolute minimum of stress on the case, therefore making the case live longer, fit the rifle better, and be more accurate? This is a whole different topic, but another habit a lot of shooters I see at the range have is primer pocket reaming. They ream the primer pocket before each reloading and then wonder why their brass only lasts three or four loads before primers start falling out and they have an action full of powder. The new chemical brass cleaners are a Godsend for us reloaders because they completely clean primer pockets making a reamer an antique. If there was ever a process that the KISS rule applied to, it is cartridge reloading. But, as I have said many times on the forum, if it works for you, keep doing it. [/QUOTE]
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