Full lenght die in to a Neck sizing die

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  1. nate-lab

    nate-lab Well-Known Member

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    Can you turn a Full Lenght sizing die in to a Neck sizing die?

    thanks
    Nate
     
  2. Winchester 69

    Winchester 69 Well-Known Member

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    You can use it so that it doesn't bump the shoulder. As a practical matter, No. Re-machining a hardened die isn't worth the effort. I am not an advocate of Lee products because of their quality, but, if you want to neck size, you might try their collet die. It's very popular and works well if it works; it might require some hand finishing to produce a nicely finished casing.
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  3. boomtube

    boomtube Well-Known Member

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    Sure. How practical it is depends a lot on the cartridge/die.

    Cases with signficant taper are pretty easy, straighter wall cases, such as the various short magnums, aren't. All you really want is a FL good die modified so it does NOT touch the case body. I've purchased some used dies cheap specifically as "donors" for that purpose.

    Standard FL Dies for cases with a LOT of body taper, such as the .30-30, can easily be used to neck size by simply screwing the die up a full thread or so, no modification needed. (There is no need to size ALL of the neck!)

    FL Dies for cases with a .473" head, those such as the 22-250, .243, 30-06, etc., can easily be bored with a cheap 1/2" concrete type carbide bit. I feel it's best to do the drilling on a lathe but a sturdy drill press will work if you are careful. Stop drilling at the shoulder junction, if you don't change that you can still use the die to bump the shoulders a tad if you wish. Other calibers can be drilled with proper sized bits.

    You can also bore out the necks from FL dies and make your own "body" dies to be used with Lee's excellant Collet Neck Sizers if you wish. Getting the right size drill bit is a bit more difficult, it takes some grinding and turning on concrete bits that are usually too large.



    You MUST use carbide bits to do this, HSS drills will NOT cut case hardened sizer die walls.
     
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  4. nate-lab

    nate-lab Well-Known Member

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    i have a lee full lenght sizer and i need to get a new decapper and thought i could get a neck sizing decapper insted of a full lenght could i do this

    thank
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  5. cabelas90

    cabelas90 Well-Known Member

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    Yea heres the link to the one I have for my 204 ruger
    Cabela's -- Redding Series A Neck Die
     
  6. boomtube

    boomtube Well-Known Member

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    Lee decapper rods for FL and neck dies are not interchangeable, if that's what you mean.

    ??? What DO you mean?
     
  7. cabelas90

    cabelas90 Well-Known Member

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    His decapper rod is slightly bent for his 270 fl die (makeing reloading a liveing hell) and he wants a new decapper rod and to turn his fl die into a neck die. Almost every time we tried to resize his 270 the decapper rod would get stuck in the case and start to pull out of the die. Hope that helps
     
  8. nheninge

    nheninge Well-Known Member

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    I guess i missed the why for this discussion.

    I assume you already have a FL die to modify. Certainly the time/money it would take to "modify" your FL die would be justification alone to order what you want in a neck sizer and have both types of dies, which you will likely need anyway...

    I am missing some info I guess...
     
  9. cabelas90

    cabelas90 Well-Known Member

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    Thats what ive been trying to tell him!!
     
  10. nate-lab

    nate-lab Well-Known Member

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    like zack said my decapper rod is slightly bent and i was think i could put a neck sizing decapper insted of a full lenght decapper
    now does that clear up most of it
     
  11. nheninge

    nheninge Well-Known Member

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    then I stand by boomtube where:

    "Lee decapper rods for FL and neck dies are not interchangeable, if that's what you mean
     
  12. nate-lab

    nate-lab Well-Known Member

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    yes that what i was meaning
    thank you for your help everyone