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Frustrated with copper fouling.
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<blockquote data-quote="Kennibear" data-source="post: 901074" data-attributes="member: 51650"><p>upacreek</p><p></p><p>I lived just east of you for 33 years. Great place to raise children.</p><p></p><p>I too started out using Hoppe's #9 and when the barrels were badly fouled I would cork the chamber and pour the bore full muzzle up and clamp it that way for days- literally! Come home from work and top it off. It was typical to leave it three or more days to remove significant copper fouling. Hoppe's just doesn't remove copper fast at all.</p><p></p><p>Most of the "barrel burner" cartridges of old (264 Win etc.) were in fact barrel foulers instead. An old gunsmith in Boise once told me he cleaned a ton of fouled barrels with hot ammonia like the military arsenals used to when his clients would bring in a rifle for rebarreling that was in fact just heavily fouled. 220 Swifts were his best clients.</p><p></p><p>When I use any of the newer cleaners, they all recommend applying oil after so there is a concern. I swab the bore after the copper remover with a thinner, usually Lacquer Thinner or a new product I found that cleans up other cleaners on most things. It is Citristrip Paint Stripper After Wash (product #PCSW94340) that is used after paint remover to clean off any remaining stripper. Strippers are not just solvents but contain some nasty debonders too. If you've tried painting over stripped wood you find paint fish eyes and bubbles with even the smallest residue left over. This stuff smells like oranges and cleans off residue the best of everything I've tried.</p><p></p><p>The bore gets a shot and a patch following of G96 Complete Gun Treatment to preserve it all 'till next range time. When I shot corrosive surplus 30/06 back in my youth I found G96 would keep the rust at bay for a day or two before I had to clean the bore with soapy water. Black powder was a tough test and it did a superb job at stopping the rust on my Colt 1851.</p><p></p><p>I have a plan for outrageous fortune and fame through inventing a product that spritzes down the bore and with a single patch cleans and protects it until next time......</p><p></p><p></p><p>and I still have no idea how to accomplish that!</p><p></p><p>KB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kennibear, post: 901074, member: 51650"] upacreek I lived just east of you for 33 years. Great place to raise children. I too started out using Hoppe's #9 and when the barrels were badly fouled I would cork the chamber and pour the bore full muzzle up and clamp it that way for days- literally! Come home from work and top it off. It was typical to leave it three or more days to remove significant copper fouling. Hoppe's just doesn't remove copper fast at all. Most of the "barrel burner" cartridges of old (264 Win etc.) were in fact barrel foulers instead. An old gunsmith in Boise once told me he cleaned a ton of fouled barrels with hot ammonia like the military arsenals used to when his clients would bring in a rifle for rebarreling that was in fact just heavily fouled. 220 Swifts were his best clients. When I use any of the newer cleaners, they all recommend applying oil after so there is a concern. I swab the bore after the copper remover with a thinner, usually Lacquer Thinner or a new product I found that cleans up other cleaners on most things. It is Citristrip Paint Stripper After Wash (product #PCSW94340) that is used after paint remover to clean off any remaining stripper. Strippers are not just solvents but contain some nasty debonders too. If you've tried painting over stripped wood you find paint fish eyes and bubbles with even the smallest residue left over. This stuff smells like oranges and cleans off residue the best of everything I've tried. The bore gets a shot and a patch following of G96 Complete Gun Treatment to preserve it all 'till next range time. When I shot corrosive surplus 30/06 back in my youth I found G96 would keep the rust at bay for a day or two before I had to clean the bore with soapy water. Black powder was a tough test and it did a superb job at stopping the rust on my Colt 1851. I have a plan for outrageous fortune and fame through inventing a product that spritzes down the bore and with a single patch cleans and protects it until next time...... and I still have no idea how to accomplish that! KB [/QUOTE]
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