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Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by Dave King, Mar 24, 2004.

  1. Dave King

    Dave King Well-Known Member

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    From nothing to long range hunting, how to\'s

    We're a diverse group and there are several basic ideas/theories on how to setup and become a long range hunter.

    Folks come each day and ask, how about this? how about that?. I think that if we can discuss the theories and differing basic premises we will have a good "Basic How To" that could fit/work for anyone.

    I'll plunk down a few "basic" ideas as I see them.

    1) A flat shooting rifle is NOT a requirement. Any cartridge will work once the basic concept of altering the scope setting to make the trajectory meet the desired range is understood.


    2) Hold-off's/special reticles work to about 500 yards. There are a lot of variables, having the knowledge to do the adjustments yourself is better than having a "nearly correct" crutch.

    3) One MUST shoot at the desired range(s) to verify come-up (drop chart, click chart, etc) data. A computer printout is a nice go-by but it must be checked.

    4) One MUST have a basic knowledge of angular measure (MOA) and how to calculate it for differing ranges. Without some knowledge of angular measure adjusting the scope for the correct(ed) trajectory is a guessing game.

    5) Some understanding of wind reading and compensation is required.

    6) When beginning, one MUST follow the scientific method and only change one variable at a time to discover problems/cures. If a rifle won't shoot, don't change the scope, bases, bullets, altitude, shooter, etc all at once or the offending item will be lost in the confusion.

    7) Start short and work long. Zero at 100 yards then get your 200 yard data, then 300 yard, etc, etc. Once you reach a point where you've run out of planet or can't hit the target you're at your limit.

    8) Be consistent in your technique. Consistent performance is a necessity, trigger technique, breathing, sight picture, cheek/stock weld, shoulder pressure, recoil/follow through, etc, etc.

    9) A good scope is required. If it's not consistent and repeatable it's not any good no matter the expense or cost savings.

    10) Accuracy is better than power. Animals and targets are NOT impressed by a large divit in the ground, they must be hit by the bullet to be impressed.

    11) Knowledge of the quarry and their habits is a good thing. Is it going to hold still long enough for the bullet to get there?? Where's it going to go when hit, maybe it wont move at all, best to have an idea ahead of time.

    [ 03-24-2004: Message edited by: Dave King ]
     
  2. QuietHunter

    QuietHunter Well-Known Member

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    Good post.
    I spent a few weeks lurking here to get much of the knowledge in this one post.

    As an addition:
    12) You must know the range. Whether determined by Laser, mildot, or premeasured in some way you have to know how far it is.

    13) Match your bullet to the type of hunting. While a "well constructed" bullet is ideal for short range, high velocity hits it may not perform well at all at lower velocity, long range hits.

    Waiting to see what others add, but I really like what Dave started.
     

  3. Brent

    Brent Well-Known Member

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    14) Knowing the MV your load produces at different temperatures and states of fouling should not be overlooked.

    15) A wind meter is a valuable tool in determining and learning wind speed, as is a rangfinder for learning to better judge range.

    16) Learn to figure your bullet path for incline/decline angles and what to measure angles with. An ACI and calculator or chart will work well.

    17) Knowing your temp, BP and altitude will increase your ability to place shots with higher precision, and thus extend your max range.
     
  4. Pahunter

    Pahunter Well-Known Member

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    How do i go about "reading wind" or what device to i use?
     
  5. Brent

    Brent Well-Known Member

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    Reading the wind can be accomplished in a few ways. Mirage, grass, trees and branches, leaves, dust, etc. The wind meter can give you a speed at the muzzle and help teach you what to look for. Mirage will show you wind speed and direction when focused at different ranges if you know how to interperate the patterns that result.

    Do a search on wind reading, and judging wind etc, and you'll find a huge amout of info that's been posted on this. There's more info here too.
     
  6. Pahunter

    Pahunter Well-Known Member

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    brent-
    thanks for link, unfortuanatley i didnt understand half of what you were talking about [​IMG]
     
  7. Brent

    Brent Well-Known Member

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    Dave started a thread about this, have a look, should explain it all there.