Free Float a Vanguard

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by 270Weatherby, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. 270Weatherby

    270Weatherby Well-Known Member

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    I just put a new Bell And Carlson on my Vanguard S2. It has two pressure pads at the tip of the stock. Should I shave those out? Shoot it first and see, then shave them out? What are the chances groups will open up with out the pressure points?
     
  2. Dr. Vette

    Dr. Vette Well-Known Member

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    Remove your action screws and then the floorplate assembly and magazine well. Look through the magazine area at the bottom of the action at the front edge of the magazine hole. How much room do you now see between the bottom of the action and the action itself? Does the action essentially rest right on the aluminum support or is there a big gap?

    If the action seems to fit tightly on the bottom then I'd just reassemble, torque rear and then front screws to 55 in-lb and shoot it. If it shoots well then leave it alone. If not, then not only would I remove the pressure points but I would also bed the action into your new stock for the best accuracy and repeatability.

    Let us know what you find. I've done it both ways.

    Oh, don't be surprised if you have to shave the stock a little bit to get the safety to work well.
     

  3. 270Weatherby

    270Weatherby Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the advice I will look it over this weekend and get it to the range next week
     
  4. Dr. Vette

    Dr. Vette Well-Known Member

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    No problem.

    I ask you to look because I had a Mark V with at least 1/4 inch between the action and the stock when I set the action in place. There was no way I could torque the screws enough to bend it down and fit the stock. Most of them fit quite well, but I always caution people to check them first.
     
  5. tbird1964

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    I recently bought a 240 Weatherby Vanguard S2 and put a scope on it and got it on paper at 100 yards and the first 3 shots were in 5/8". Mine is a very accurate rifle right out of the box. I would shoot it before doing anything drastic.
     
  6. 270Weatherby

    270Weatherby Well-Known Member

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    Put the new stock on and there is a small gap between bedding block and action, but the Vanguard has one action screw in the recoil lug. So in effect the action is pillar bedded. Need to get to the range and get some testing done before I get it bedded.

    Oh tbird, it shot fine out of the box, just wanted a better look
     
  7. Dr. Vette

    Dr. Vette Well-Known Member

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    Not really. There is still stock material from the recoil lug down to the floor plate in most stocks, and if there's air under your recoil lug then it's not bedded at all.

    If you bed a Vanguard, do NOT put tape on the bottom side of the recoil lug.
     
  8. 270Weatherby

    270Weatherby Well-Known Member

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    There is no air under the recoil lug. That is the only contact point I can find.
    That being said I still just want to shoot it and see the repeatability then work on bedding.