Both are matte black, 30mm tubes, and except for barely perceptible ring marks (not scratches or gouges, just a slightly smoother appearance in the finish) they are like new in their original boxes. #66111, VX-3 Long Range 8.5-25x50, TMR reticle, target knobs, side parallax, and expensive Alumina lens covers front and rear. $895 shipped. #54690, Vari-X III Long Range tactical M1 8.5-25x50, mildot reticle. Heavy-duty (M1) target turrets, side parallax, Butler Creek flip-up cap on rear lens and 3" Leupold sunshade on the objective. $995 shipped. Save me from eBay and buy these. You will NOT be disappointed. They are for sale on other boards, and ad will be updated if one or both are sold. As of right now, both are available!