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Focal plain which is best ?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jon A" data-source="post: 599478" data-attributes="member: 319"><p>Very true, but as has been mentioned, this question has been asked. Over and over again. If you put "focal" into the search function you'll find a whole bunch of threads that will give you hours of good reading material. Asking for those threads to be repeated every other week is not polite.</p><p></p><p>To quickly address a couple a couple things said here:</p><p></p><p>Yes, this is a <strong>Long Range <em>Hunting</em></strong> site. This is not a <strong>Long Range <em>Egg Shoot</em></strong> or<strong> Long Range <em>P-Doggin'</em></strong> site.</p><p></p><p>There are a multitude of FFP reticles available which are thin enough to pose <strong>zero, I repeat, <em>zero</em></strong> problems precisely aiming at vital zone sized targets out to as far as anybody can hit them.</p><p></p><p>While some still may not <em>like</em> them, or may <em>prefer</em> something else--much the way they may not like a synthetic stock colored blue instead of black--that's fine. Everybody is free to like what they want to like.</p><p></p><p>But stating they cause some <strong>real</strong> functional problem is simply false information.</p><p></p><p>And also since this is a Long Range Hunting site, not one devoted to competitions where there are rules meant to test certain skills, <span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>EVERYBODY USES A <span style="color: Red">LASER</span> RANGEFINDER! </strong></span></p><p></p><p>Since that seems to be overlooked (seemingly purposely) in every one of these threads, in case anybody missed it the first time--<span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>EVERYBODY USES A <span style="color: Red">LASER</span> RANGEFINDER! </strong></span></p><p></p><p>Everybody. So that should have absolutely nothing to do with your choice of scope. </p><p></p><p>What should affect your choice is whether or not you want to use the reticle for <em>anything.</em> For most here, the most common use is holding the wind precisely with the reticle. Since the wind can often change between the time you dial and pull the trigger, making the adjustment on the reticle as you watch it happen through your scope can be helpful to many shooters. For this, a FFP scope works no matter what and a SFP scope needs to be set on a specific power and/or you need to do math.</p><p></p><p>And you know, I really don't think made up BS like this is helpful to anybody. Those who use FFP are guys with little guns who aren't smart enough to realize that Laser Rangefinders might be helpful and can't hit a **** thing beyond 700 yds.</p><p></p><p>Where on earth do you come up with such garbage? In case you forgot already, <span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>EVERYBODY USES A <span style="color: Red">LASER</span> RANGEFINDER! </strong></span> Please stop saying that.</p><p></p><p>Of all the thousands of members here, the years this site has been around, can you name one single person who fits the above caricature you made up? Somebody who hunts big game out to 700 yds and does not use a LRF, instead "ranging with the reticle" of a FFP scope?</p><p></p><p>One single person? If not, please come to the realization that you are spreading false information.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jon A, post: 599478, member: 319"] Very true, but as has been mentioned, this question has been asked. Over and over again. If you put "focal" into the search function you'll find a whole bunch of threads that will give you hours of good reading material. Asking for those threads to be repeated every other week is not polite. To quickly address a couple a couple things said here: Yes, this is a [B]Long Range [I]Hunting[/I][/B] site. This is not a [B]Long Range [I]Egg Shoot[/I][/B] or[B] Long Range [I]P-Doggin'[/I][/B] site. There are a multitude of FFP reticles available which are thin enough to pose [B]zero, I repeat, [I]zero[/I][/B] problems precisely aiming at vital zone sized targets out to as far as anybody can hit them. While some still may not [I]like[/I] them, or may [I]prefer[/I] something else--much the way they may not like a synthetic stock colored blue instead of black--that's fine. Everybody is free to like what they want to like. But stating they cause some [B]real[/B] functional problem is simply false information. And also since this is a Long Range Hunting site, not one devoted to competitions where there are rules meant to test certain skills, [SIZE="3"][B]EVERYBODY USES A [COLOR="Red"]LASER[/COLOR] RANGEFINDER! [/B][/SIZE] Since that seems to be overlooked (seemingly purposely) in every one of these threads, in case anybody missed it the first time--[SIZE="3"][B]EVERYBODY USES A [COLOR="Red"]LASER[/COLOR] RANGEFINDER! [/B][/SIZE] Everybody. So that should have absolutely nothing to do with your choice of scope. What should affect your choice is whether or not you want to use the reticle for [I]anything.[/I] For most here, the most common use is holding the wind precisely with the reticle. Since the wind can often change between the time you dial and pull the trigger, making the adjustment on the reticle as you watch it happen through your scope can be helpful to many shooters. For this, a FFP scope works no matter what and a SFP scope needs to be set on a specific power and/or you need to do math. And you know, I really don't think made up BS like this is helpful to anybody. Those who use FFP are guys with little guns who aren't smart enough to realize that Laser Rangefinders might be helpful and can't hit a **** thing beyond 700 yds. Where on earth do you come up with such garbage? In case you forgot already, [SIZE="3"][B]EVERYBODY USES A [COLOR="Red"]LASER[/COLOR] RANGEFINDER! [/B][/SIZE] Please stop saying that. Of all the thousands of members here, the years this site has been around, can you name one single person who fits the above caricature you made up? Somebody who hunts big game out to 700 yds and does not use a LRF, instead "ranging with the reticle" of a FFP scope? One single person? If not, please come to the realization that you are spreading false information. [/QUOTE]
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