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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 885112" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>Here's how you do it and how you confuse everybody to make your look better. You have a casting done in China or Korea (Japanese don't do much casting anymore). But it's a normal practice of have the casting "pre-machined" to all it to fit your fixtures. Everybody does this, and there's never much of an argument about it. But looking at the shape of the O frame press, one sees right away that the only part you could mount on a fixture is the base (roughly 40% of the machining). But you could just as easily have the bore done in the same fixture setup. Now you've got over 75% done by the foundry. To get around the ram not being made here, you out source the part (doesn't have to have made in China on it because it's simply a part and not a complete unit), and they have it done outside themselves. Then you can get all the parts machined and in crates waiting to be assembled. You do this, and then box them up for shipping and can now claim made in USA. </p><p> </p><p> This practice was created by auto manufacturers, and they got very good at it. Others just learned from them. You walk thru there and see boxes that are constructed out of an odd looking card board, and that's the dead give away. Europeans cartons look a lot like U.S. and Canada, but still stick out. The Asians are so good at it, that they often double box with no label of content or origin on the inside boxes. Goes on everyday. </p><p> gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 885112, member: 25383"] Here's how you do it and how you confuse everybody to make your look better. You have a casting done in China or Korea (Japanese don't do much casting anymore). But it's a normal practice of have the casting "pre-machined" to all it to fit your fixtures. Everybody does this, and there's never much of an argument about it. But looking at the shape of the O frame press, one sees right away that the only part you could mount on a fixture is the base (roughly 40% of the machining). But you could just as easily have the bore done in the same fixture setup. Now you've got over 75% done by the foundry. To get around the ram not being made here, you out source the part (doesn't have to have made in China on it because it's simply a part and not a complete unit), and they have it done outside themselves. Then you can get all the parts machined and in crates waiting to be assembled. You do this, and then box them up for shipping and can now claim made in USA. This practice was created by auto manufacturers, and they got very good at it. Others just learned from them. You walk thru there and see boxes that are constructed out of an odd looking card board, and that's the dead give away. Europeans cartons look a lot like U.S. and Canada, but still stick out. The Asians are so good at it, that they often double box with no label of content or origin on the inside boxes. Goes on everyday. gary [/QUOTE]
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