First Custom Rifle

Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by downsouth, Aug 19, 2008.

  1. downsouth

    downsouth Member

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    There are many knowledgeable sources on here, so I'd like to get some recommendations from you guys if that’s alright. I'm looking at getting my first custom rifle built. My big hang-up right now is whether or not I should go with a blueprinted Model 700 action or go for it and get a custom action for the rifle. This rifle will be mainly a hunting rifle. I just want something that is reliable and can reach out there when it has to. Do you think I’m better off just going the cheaper route with the blueprinted Model 700, or should I spend a little more and get it built on a custom action? I might screw around at greater distances, but I imagine most of my shooting should be within 800 yards. Money is not really an issue, but I hate to spend the extra if it’s not needed. Thanks.
     
  2. James Jones

    James Jones Well-Known Member

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    do you have a Rem 700 already that you can build on?
    If not you'll save money going with a custom from Phoenix Machine and you can get several custom options for free.
     

  3. downsouth

    downsouth Member

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    I do currently have the 700 action.
     
  4. Buffalobob

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    Sell the Rem 700 and get a new custom. It will cost a little more but when you look at it or just think about it, the extra funds you spent will not be important.
     
  5. James Jones

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    I'm building my next 308 on a Phoenix reciever with a PT&G bolt , this setup will have the same or better clearance than a Rem 700 thats had the bolt sleeved. Here is what I'm getting and what the total was

    Reciever , with heavier tang and target port (added strength with both)
    .702" bolt race ways , EDM cut (very smooth and close tolerance)
    side bolt stop (Like Nesika's)
    double pinned .312" thick recoil lug
    extened thread tennon to 1.403"
    total with shipping = $437.50
    PT&G bolt , .700" diameter , M-16 extractor , threaded bolt handel to be TIG welded on , total with shipping = $153
    Total action cost = $590.50

    Rem 700 , true action and ream bolt race way , $200
    true bolt and sleeve to fit action , $150
    install sako or M-16 extractor , $150 including extractor
    side bolt release $125
    bolt handle fitted with Badger bolt knob , $80
    Total cost = $705 and thats IF you have the action already and your gonna loose your ass if you ever have to sell it.

    Sell your action , should get $325 pretty easy for complete action and trigger then your well on your way to the custom that will be better built and hold it value WAY better than a factory action.
    Granted you don't have to get all the extra stuff on the rem 700 you could just have it blueprinted and that'll run about $200 then another $150-$200 for the barrel install.

    You don't say what your hunting out to 800yds that would help determine what caliber would better suit your needs.
     
  6. Boman

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    You guys got a website for Phoenix?
     
  7. Oppenheimer

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    Bowmen,
    You could just bluepring your 700 and put the same PTG bolt in it.
    With the Sako extractor and whatever boltface you want.
    You are already half way there, you have the rifle.
    Thats a good place to start for your first custom rifle.
    With something you have
    Oppenheimer
     
  8. James Jones

    James Jones Well-Known Member

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    Boman Well-Known Member

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    Thanks James, Looks like some great actions. I hear George Gardner is using this action to replace his action..
     
  10. Oppenheimer

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    Downsouth
    You are still not looking at that much differance overall.
    Since you already have a 700, the blueprinting will run $200-250
    PTG sell the bolts milled for Sako Extractors with the bolt handles installed
    for $150 + the extractor $20 thats in any diameter to fit your Blueprinted action.
    Depending on who does the blueprinting work you can have a action just as capable as the custom, without a dought.
    Send me an E amil and I can give you more info if you are interested.
    Oppenheimer
     
  11. James Jones

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    GAP was using Lawton actions on their "Templar" rifles , their was some troubles with orders getting filled to meet the GAP demand due to Barney being sick so they have since changed to Phoenix Machine , I got my reciever today and my PTG bolt yesterday , I went with a .700" bolt to fit thephoenix .702 reciever bolt raceway. I have to say that other than a Bat its the "slickest" action I've seen and worked , very very smooth and tight