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Fireforming .280 AI from .280 Remington brass or .270 Win brass?
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<blockquote data-quote="Alibiiv" data-source="post: 1532850" data-attributes="member: 69192"><p>I'd like to thank you both (and all who have provided the posts in this thread who have shared their information) for sharing your knowledge on this subject. I am truly glad that I made the thread to get some answers. From all that I have read on the differences, I am pretty much set on the .280 Ackley Improved (40`) original wildcat if my gunsmith has a reamer for it. If not I am hoping that the is willing to rent a reamer for it if that it possible. If he doesn't have the wildcat reamer, I will make it the .280 AI SAAMI instead. I wanted a cartridge/caliber that was unique and efficient in nature. This all started when my son and I started shooting up some left over ammunition that we'd had from a bear hunt the previous year. Just for curiosity we decided that we'd like to see if we could hit the 8 inch steel plates at 300 yards with our 35 Whelens, .358 Winchester and 45-70 Guide Gun. At that time to our amazement it wasn't that difficult to do, and it really was something to see when those 225 and 200 grain Barnes bullets, and the 300 grain 45-70 Noslers were hitting those plates. I know that for many on this sight, it really wasn't/isn't a big deal, but.....for us this was new territory. My son really got a kick of shooting that far and now when we go to the range we always end up shooting out to 300 yards, the farthest range that our club offers. We live in Rhode Island and if we were in the middle of the state and decided to shoot 1000 yards we'd either be putting rounds in Connecticut, Massachusetts or into the ocean. From that point on I started looking for something that we could use to shoot longer distances, thus all of the research on a caliber, and........that is what got me here while doing the research. We both really like the Ruger tang safety rifles, as I have written here several times, I have a safe full of them so I started looking for long range shooters and found two Ruger tang safety rifles in .270 Winchester that were extremely reasonable as donors. One I called a beater rifle for $400, however it had a 3.5 X 10 Leupold VarIII on it in Talley rings, but it looked like it had been dragged behind a truck when I got it. I stripped the stock, saving the original checkering, and then stained, Birchwood Casey'd the stock and finished by clearing the whole stock, it's no longer a beater rifle, and the scope is out to Leupold to have it gone through. The other donor was on Gun Broker for $400 and it was a mint 200th Anniversary model; thus my two donor rifles. I find that the .270 Winchester caliber is a great caliber, but I'd just like to get something that is unique and efficient, and we may try to get out west and do a mule deer hunt. </p><p></p><p>Based upon all the information that has been provided to me, I am thinking that <u><em>no matter what Ackley Improved caliber that I get I will get the proper hydro-form dies for that particular Ackley Improved chambering</em></u>, they're a little expensive but not out of the budget, and make my brass using these dies. JE I too like the Nosler products and shoot them quite frequently, I especially like the 225 grain Accubons in the Whelen, and have shot a lot of deer with Nosler partitions since 1960 and back then I believe that at the time they were made on a screw machine lathe. The first deer that I shot was with the "new", hot caliber that came out from Remington, the 6.5 Rem Mag in the Rem 600 with the laminated stock and shooting a 140 grain partition bullet at a paced distance of 260 yards, I'm stretching the memory banks here, it was an easy field dress because the insides pretty much ran out of the cavity. This is a great forum, I'm now researching neck turning vs case neck reaming and what neck turning tools to get.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alibiiv, post: 1532850, member: 69192"] I'd like to thank you both (and all who have provided the posts in this thread who have shared their information) for sharing your knowledge on this subject. I am truly glad that I made the thread to get some answers. From all that I have read on the differences, I am pretty much set on the .280 Ackley Improved (40`) original wildcat if my gunsmith has a reamer for it. If not I am hoping that the is willing to rent a reamer for it if that it possible. If he doesn't have the wildcat reamer, I will make it the .280 AI SAAMI instead. I wanted a cartridge/caliber that was unique and efficient in nature. This all started when my son and I started shooting up some left over ammunition that we'd had from a bear hunt the previous year. Just for curiosity we decided that we'd like to see if we could hit the 8 inch steel plates at 300 yards with our 35 Whelens, .358 Winchester and 45-70 Guide Gun. At that time to our amazement it wasn't that difficult to do, and it really was something to see when those 225 and 200 grain Barnes bullets, and the 300 grain 45-70 Noslers were hitting those plates. I know that for many on this sight, it really wasn't/isn't a big deal, but.....for us this was new territory. My son really got a kick of shooting that far and now when we go to the range we always end up shooting out to 300 yards, the farthest range that our club offers. We live in Rhode Island and if we were in the middle of the state and decided to shoot 1000 yards we'd either be putting rounds in Connecticut, Massachusetts or into the ocean. From that point on I started looking for something that we could use to shoot longer distances, thus all of the research on a caliber, and........that is what got me here while doing the research. We both really like the Ruger tang safety rifles, as I have written here several times, I have a safe full of them so I started looking for long range shooters and found two Ruger tang safety rifles in .270 Winchester that were extremely reasonable as donors. One I called a beater rifle for $400, however it had a 3.5 X 10 Leupold VarIII on it in Talley rings, but it looked like it had been dragged behind a truck when I got it. I stripped the stock, saving the original checkering, and then stained, Birchwood Casey'd the stock and finished by clearing the whole stock, it's no longer a beater rifle, and the scope is out to Leupold to have it gone through. The other donor was on Gun Broker for $400 and it was a mint 200th Anniversary model; thus my two donor rifles. I find that the .270 Winchester caliber is a great caliber, but I'd just like to get something that is unique and efficient, and we may try to get out west and do a mule deer hunt. Based upon all the information that has been provided to me, I am thinking that [U][I]no matter what Ackley Improved caliber that I get I will get the proper hydro-form dies for that particular Ackley Improved chambering[/I][/U], they're a little expensive but not out of the budget, and make my brass using these dies. JE I too like the Nosler products and shoot them quite frequently, I especially like the 225 grain Accubons in the Whelen, and have shot a lot of deer with Nosler partitions since 1960 and back then I believe that at the time they were made on a screw machine lathe. The first deer that I shot was with the "new", hot caliber that came out from Remington, the 6.5 Rem Mag in the Rem 600 with the laminated stock and shooting a 140 grain partition bullet at a paced distance of 260 yards, I'm stretching the memory banks here, it was an easy field dress because the insides pretty much ran out of the cavity. This is a great forum, I'm now researching neck turning vs case neck reaming and what neck turning tools to get. [/QUOTE]
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